Ya Allah or Ya Junayd? | Shaykh Asrar

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  1. abu Hasan

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    i am flabbergasted at the inability of people to understand a simple thing. i give up.
     
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  2. abu Hasan

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    read the excerpt from al-malfuz and then from al-fatawa al-ridawiyah.

    even if this was incorrectly present in al-malfuz, you cannot throw away the whole book. one or two mistakes do not invalidate everything (unlike statements of kufr and blasphemy, where even one statement renders a person kafir. al-iyadhu billah).
    BUT the fact is that there is no contradiction in al-malfuz and fatawa. people should learn to read.

    because there is no contradiction.


    malfuz sharif 1/105 (old ed)

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    Fatawa Ridawiyyah 26/436

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  3. Hassan_0123

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    Ala Hazrat says regarding the story 'I will cross saying Ya Allah is an addition' and the 'ya junaid' part is a complete fabrication. It is fully explained in this video here



    Too bad many famous speakers have used the story in their speeches without verifying if it is true or not.
     
  4. Shadman

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  5. Hanafi Sunni

    Hanafi Sunni Active Member

    Respected Imām! In which Kitāb is it recorded that once the Cardinal Pole of noble Saints (Qutb), Shaykh Junaid al-Baghdad said, “Ya Allāh ” and walked over the river? I cannot remember the entire story. Could you please enlighten me?
    ANSWER: This incident is probably recorded in the famous Kitāb, adiqat al-Nadiyyah by ‘Arife-Billh Imām ‘Abd al-Ghan Nab’ls  (d.1143/1731). Once, Shaykh Junaid Baghdad  came to the shores of river Tigris and began the  of “Ya Allāh”. He then walked over the water as if he was on solid ground and crossed the river. Before he crossed, a man was also waiting for transport to go across. When the man saw the Shaykh crossing, he said, “Oh Shaykh! I would also like to go across.” The Shaykh said, “Repeat Ya Junaid! Ya Junaid! And follow me.” The man did that and began walking on the water. As he reached the middle of the river, the
    Shaytān confused his mind by saying, “Who is greater, Allāh or the Shaykh? The Shaykh himself is saying ‘Ya Allāh! Ya Allāh! but orders you to say ‘Ya Junaid, Ya Junaid’. This is Shirk. Abstain from this and imitate the Shaykh who says ‘Ya Allāh, Ya Allāh?’" The cursed Shaytān misled the man and he began to say “Ya Allāh”. As soon as he invoked the Name of Allāh , he began drowning and screamed for help. The noble Shaykh  watched this and shouted to him, “Say ‘Ya Junaid, Ya Junaid, as I ordered you to do!” The man did so and was amazed to feel the water under his feet transformed as hard as the ground. He crossed over to safety.
    When he reached the banks, he inquired from the Shaykh, “O Shaykh! I cannot understand this puzzle. You said ‘Ya Allāh, Ya Allāh’ and crossed over safely. But when I invoked His  Glorious Name, I began drowning?” The Noble Walī  replied “O ignorant!
    You have not as yet understood Junaid and have dreams of understanding Allāh !” Subān-Allāh!

    Al malfuz volume 1

    This raises questions to the validity of al Malfuz then. Suprising as to how so many years great ulama havent picked this out and corrected.
     
  6. Aqdas

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