What is going on?

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  1. Hanafi Sunni

    Hanafi Sunni Veteran

    Soona jungle raat andheri chaayi badli kaali hay,
    Sone waalo jaagte rahiyo choron ki rakhwaali hay.

    Aankh sey kaajal saaf churaa lain yaan woh chor balaa key hain,
    Teri gatthrri taakee hay aur tu ne neend nikali hay

    Saathi saathi keh key pukaroon saathi ho to jawab aaye,
    Phir jhunjhlaa kar sar de patkoon chal re Mowla waali hay

    Woh to nihayat sasta sowda baich rahe hain jannat ka,
    Hum muflis kya moal chukaayen apna haath hi khaali hay
     
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  2. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    it appears that speakers and 'ulama' have abandoned the frontline. it looks like everyone is concerned about their own issues.

    will the public get confused? not shaykh abc's problem. because shaykh abc is not responsible for what they think. you can ask shaykh abc whether they profess certain aqidah? and they will emphatically refute it. but you sit with so and so who praises a deviant and is often seen with a deviant...?

    "but that is all maslahah. you won't understand it. just let it go."

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    gone are the times when ulama took a stand - and they took a stand because people looked up to them. they emulated them. if ulama were comfortable with some person, it meant that the aalim approves of him. besides, our ulama were so upright that shady folk would fear to go near them.

    ulama had reputations and they knew that it was necessary for them to behave in public because the public watched their moves and their actions would indicate permissibility.

    now ulama attend every gathering - and they do not even make their stance clear. shaykh asrar was heavily criticised for voicing dissent in a certain gathering where one of the aqtab brothers had showed up. perhaps therefore, shaykh asrar has stopped taking a public stand. after all - one gets slammed for anything one does. when he spoke against false sufis and the khurafat going on in our communities, people tried to hush him up. and now, that he doesn't speak against anyone - it is troubling some people. it is difficult to please everyone.

    there are some others who are busy with their individual pursuits - and are careful not to step on other people's toes. they do not wish to get embroiled in controversies.

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    only the pariahs - keyboard warriors - will keep making noises, even though their voice doesn't carry any farther than the forum. and nobody cares for their opinion.

    wa billahi't tawfiq.
     
  3. Hanafi Sunni

    Hanafi Sunni Veteran

    Sorry just scrolled through his facebook, various sunni imams and ulama have held gatherings with him.
     
  4. Hanafi Sunni

    Hanafi Sunni Veteran

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    with milad raza who is an open supporter and mureed of tahirul padri.
     
  5. Hanafi Sunni

    Hanafi Sunni Veteran

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    what is going on? why are our sunni ulama still inviting eesa khan naushahi to event when his an open supporter of Irfan Shah mashadi?

    On the other hand NMJM cancelled the burdah due to Hafiz asad ali & co interacting with adam kelwick and various other reasons but we see shaykh asrar openly support these young scholars, so what is going on?
     

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