Ghaws o Raza

Discussion in 'Hadayiq e Bakhshish' started by Qasim Hanafi Ridwi, Feb 15, 2014.

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  1. Talab ka muh to kis qaabil ya Ghaws,
    Magar tera karam kaamil hai ya Ghaws.

    Raza ka khaatimah bil khair hogaa,
    Teri rehmat aghar shaamil hai ya Ghaws.

    radi Allahu Ta'ala 'anhumaa
  2. Badal ya fard jo hai kaamil ya Ghaws,
    Tere hi dar se mustakmil hai ya Ghaws.

    Raza ke saamney ki tab kis mein,
    falak waar is peh tera zill hai ya Ghaws.

    radi Allahu Ta'ala 'anhumaa
  3. [FONT="Verdana","sans-serif"]Jo Tera tifl hai kaamil hai ya Ghaws,[/FONT]
    [FONT="Verdana","sans-serif"]Tufaili ka laqab waasil hai ya Ghaws.[/FONT]
    [FONT="Verdana","sans-serif"] [/FONT]
    [FONT="Verdana","sans-serif"]Raza ke kaam aur ruk jaaien haashaa,[/FONT]
    [FONT="Verdana","sans-serif"]Tera saail hai tu Baazil hai ya Ghaws.[/FONT]
    [FONT="Verdana","sans-serif"] [/FONT]
    [FONT="Verdana","sans-serif"]radi Allahu Ta'ala 'anhu[/FONT]
  4. [FONT=Verdana","sans-serif][FONT=Verdana","sans-serif]al Amaan qahr hai aey Ghaws woh thekhaa Tera,[/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana","sans-serif][FONT=Verdana","sans-serif]Mar ke bhi chain sey sotaa nahin maaraa Tera.[/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana","sans-serif]Aey Razachest gham ar jumlah jahaan dushmane toost,[/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana","sans-serif]karda ammaa mane khud qiblah e haajaa Te ra.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana","sans-serif]radi Allahu Ta'ala 'anhumaa [/FONT]
  5. Tera zarrah mah e kaamil hai ya Ghaws,
    Tera qatrah yam saail hai ya Ghaws.

    Kahaa Tune keh jo mangho mile ghaa,
    Raza tujh se tera saail hai ya Ghaws.

    radi Allahu Ta'ala 'anhumaa
  6. Tu hai woh Ghaws keh har Ghaws hai shehdaa Tera,
    Tu hai woh Gais keh har Gais hai pyaasaa Tera.

    Dil e A'adaa ko Raza teez namak ki dhun hai,
    Ik zaraa aur charaktaa rahe khaamah Tera.

    radi Allahu Ta'ala 'anhu
  7. Shaykh al Islam Imam Ahl al Sunnah Mujaddid A'azam Imam Ahmad Rida al Qadiri radi Allahu Ta'ala 'anhu wa rahmatullahi ‘alaihi was the Naaib (Deputy) of al Ghawth radi Allahu Ta'ala 'anhu in Hind. He wrote many manqabats in his praise. I will just be presenting the Matl'a (opening verses) and the Maqta'a concluding verses in sha Allahu Ta'ala.

    ya Ghaws ya Raza imdaad kun

    Wah kya martabah aye Ghaws hai baalaa Teraa,
    Uwnche uwnchoun se Qadam A'ala Teraa.

    Fakhr e Aaqaa mein Raza aur bhi ik Nazam e Rafe'e,
    Chal likhaa laaien sanaakhawanoun mein chehra Tera.

    radi Allahu Ta'ala 'anhuma
  8. New picture of the blessed shrine of Sultaan al Awliyaa Mahbub Subhaani Imaam al Ghawth al A’azam Shaykh Sayyid ‘Abd ul Qadir al Jilani al Baghdaadi rahimahullahu Ta’ala

    Subhaan Allah

    Ya Ghawth al maddad ya Ghawth ya Ghawth ya Ghawth umdudni fi sabil-lillah Ta'ala

    Baghdad Mualla Iraq

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  9. Mere Ahmad Raza ya’ani mere Mawla kahe Mawla,
    Mere Pyaare Nabi ka laadla Baghdaad ka Dulha.

    sall Allahu 'alaihi wa Aalihi wasallam wa radi Allahu Ta'ala 'anhu

    Shaykh Sayyid Muhammad Ayyub al Rizwi al Qadri rahimahullahu Ta’ala
  10. Teri sarkaar mein lata hai Raza us ko Shafi',
    Jo mera Ghaws hai aur ladla beta Tera.

    Radi Allahu Ta'ala 'anhu wa sall Allahu 'alaihi wa Aalihi wasallam
  11. AbdalMujtaba

    AbdalMujtaba New Member

    Pūchtey kyā ho Shāh-e-Jilān key fazāyil Aasi;
    Woh har fazīlat key jam'i hain, Nubbuwat ke Siwā
  12. Nawazuddin

    Nawazuddin Veteran

    Brother qasim, only a few days ago you were showing the scanned copies of al-hawi of al-suyuti concerning the same issue. what has brought this change of heart? dorangi?
  13. Please take this discussion elsewhere.
  14. Nawazuddin

    Nawazuddin Veteran

    Textually one is certain and the other is speculative. A case of superiority can only be made from that which is definite. In fadilah, we may even present a weak hadith but for afdaliyyah one needs a certain text because it also negates x for others and for negation of x from others, one needs a certain text. Therefore, one is admissible to construe an argument for afdaliyyah and the other is not.
  15. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    what is the result of such an observation?

    that the hypothetical case of mawla `ali being a prophet [if the seal of prophets sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam had not come] is far stronger than the hypothetical case of sayyiduna `umar being one (raDiyallahu `anhuma) and hence, mawla `ali is superior to sayyiduna `umar?

    do you mean that if more SaHabah advocate something, it is a stronger proof? or if a majority advocates something, it has more weight?
  16. Nawazuddin

    Nawazuddin Veteran

    Just an observation. There is a difference of authentication between the two hadith.

    This hadith is Hasan and has the reporter mishrah ibn ha'aan in it and there is a discussion about it from both angles. However, atmost, it is hasan.

    whereas this hadith is mutawatir and is reported by more than twenty sahaba and declared mutawatir.
  17. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    actually, there are hadith concerning saHabah such as sayyiduna `umar raDiyallahu `anhu: "if there would have been a prophet after me, `umar would have been one."

    in a weak hadith: "if i were not sent, umar would have been sent [as prophet]" (that is, prior to me. because in any case, RasulAllah sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam is the seal of all prophets. even if the hadith were SaHiH, it would mean, hypothetically, if RasulAllah sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam had not YET arrived 1488+ years ago, umar raDiyallahu anhu would have been a prophet and THEREAFTER RasulAllah sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam would be sent as the final prophet.* wAllahu a'alam)

    and a similar SaHiH narration in praise of mawla `ali: "you are with me, similar to harun's station with musa; except that there is no prophet after me." (alayhima as-salam)"

    this is in SaHiH muslim, 2404 [see ikmal of qadi iyad, 7/411] manaqib sayyiduna ali. not related here, but there radd of shiah, rafidah and tafzilis who use this to claim that mawla ali's haqq for khilafah was foremost. qaDi iyaD points out that sayyiduna harun `alayhi's salam was made khalifah (given charge of protecting the community in his absence, 7:142) in the lifetime of sayyiduna musa `alayhi's salam and that he passed away 40 years before sayyiduna musa `alayhi's salam. this comparison in the hadith was made when sayyiduna ali raDiyallahu anhu was given charge of protecting the community when RasulAllah sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam proceeded to the battle of tabuk.

    in maqaSid al-Hasanah of imam sakhawi, #702:
    "our shaykh and those before him such as damiri and zarkashi have said: "this narration is baseless" and others have added: "this is not found in any reliable book".
    however, the hadith: "scholars are heirs of prophets - al-ulama warathatu al-anbiya'a" is found in musnad ahmed, abu dawud, tirmidhi, and other books.

    means "you have everything except prophethood" and obviously that means every attribute that is necessary for prophethood, or specific to prophets alone is absent in non-prophets. for example, ismat. indeed, this is obvious, but lovers of the tahir probably love such bleedingly obvious statements.**

    Allah ta'ala knows best.

    *extrapolated from qaDi iyad's commentary on "la nabiyya ba'adi".

    **see this at 2.04 mark; there are other stupid remarks, but my point is about the obvious, similar to this (see p104 and 105).

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  18. In order to understand the context of Imam Ahl us Sunnah radi Allahu Ta'ala 'anhu you must read the whole manqabat and keep it in context.

    Also read the two verses before the one that I quoted.
  19. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    and it also opens doors to make absurd claims - e.g. "imam Mehdi is superior to some prophets" - may Allah protect us from all sorts of deviancy.
  20. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    nawaz's statement seems highly problematic considering that there has been a lot of talk among the scholars as to the best interpretation of the hadith:
    ulamau ummati kal anmbiyai bani-israel.

    besides sayyidi alaHazrat has also said:

    phele sahabiyyat hui phir taabaiyyat
    aage qadiri manzil hai ya Gauth

    and Nubuwwat hi se tu 'aatil hai ya Ghaws! does not translate to: "he had all the attributes and qualities" of prophethood. otherwise Uluhiyyat hi Ahmad ne nah paie will translate to?

    Allah knows best.

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