Humour: a friend forwarded me this...:D

Discussion in 'Smalltalk' started by abu Hasan, Dec 23, 2007.

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  1. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    oh, dear. oh, dear.

    let us start with the title. what is a 'pick-up' line?

    you can try the wiki if you like but here is the dictionary meaning: pickup

    perhaps i do not know english well or the culture; but yet, i do not know anyone using a 'pick-up' line, if it was not an innuendo for sex or dating. now go back to your lines and read them in that context and you will see what we people from the east, the unable-to-ridicule-humiliate-ourselves kind can see.

    astaghfirullah. and we debate the 'offensiveness?'
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  2. I really don´t think that many of these statements--which ARE puerile (but that´s the whole point!)-- are offensive and one reason I did put them on here was to gauge what the reaction would be. Brother Aqdas and Sidi AH, can you pinpoint which statements you find ´very offensive´. And Aqdas bhai don´t you think statements such as, "i reckon a few of the lines could earn someone some fatwas´is way over the top a reaction?
    the only non Islamic thing I could see is that overall these jokes are encouraging an unIslamic act (i.e. chatting up a girl) but that is it.
  3. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    very offensive. just like that chowk article a few weeks ago. i feel sorry for the people who write this kind of trash. i reckon a few of the lines could earn someone some fatwas.
  4. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    i find you a confused individual. you lament sunnis/muslims to be sort-of-illiterate but at the same time, in controversial topics, your posts are only emotion and hearsay.

    you lament 'racism' among muslims but do not rise above it yourself; notice the display a sort of 'the-east-is-oh-backward' kind of condescending comments. some people admire the west for the wrong reasons. some others cannot break the shackles of intellectual slavery.

    i am sorry to say it, but it is odd when people don't differentiate between 'offend' and 'offensive' inspite of being in english-lands.

    sure they did not mean to offend, but are offensive nevertheless.

    true. some people cannot enjoy subtle humor; and only slapstick is preferred. no wonder we are forced to explain elegant jabs.

    i am sorry but, if being refined is a flaw, we are fine in our flaw.

    again, self-deprecating humor and mockery are two different things. anyway, one of your many sweeping statements and stereotypes.

    these jokes might amuse the schoolboy; but i find them puerile. on top of it, do i have to mention the bad spelling and abject ignorance of islamic laws? also, making fun of sunnah can make one a kafir - al `iyadhu billah.

    but i reproduce your 'jokes' in full. let us see who guffaws.

    from the deleted post:

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  5. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    ya akhi! is there anything in tasawwuf like self-mockery? 'ijz is different.
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  6. okay we have our own POVs but sometimes taking everything too seriously can have a negative effect too. these jokes were by muslims for muslims--so obviously not meant to offend. it is called being able to laugh at ourselves and not taking oneself too seriously. maybe slapstick is a cultural difference. i do find muslim ppls from the East cannot do self-mockery.
  7. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    RasulAllah sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam deplored falsehood even in jest.

    a muslim - a sufi - concerns himself with trying to be closer to the sunnah. such lines which make light of sin ['pickup lines' and 'muslim'.] and mock islamic practices should not be encouraged.

    sorry, but slapstick is not my idea of humor.
  8. you can say that again!
  9. edit: off colour
    and certainly not islamic

    oh, yeah. we ain't got no sense o' humor.
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