Islam: The Religion of Love | Volume 1 | Shaykh Muhammad al-Yaqoubi

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  1. sufisticated

    sufisticated New Member

    listen brother, it doesn't matter what you, i or anyone else thinks of the post - what are you going to achieve by this? nothing!!

    as for the Shaykh's image - let the Shaykh and his people deal with it - why are you getting so involved?
     
  2. kattarsunni

    kattarsunni Veteran

    So answer this: If you found Malik's post nearly disrespectful what do you think of "Sacredknowledge's" on sunniforum. Is it disrespectful or not?

    Does it not tarnish the Shaykh's image? I do not think you are impartial on this issue.
     
  3. sufisticated

    sufisticated New Member

    if you are that upset about, go to Tesco, they are doing 2 for 1 on Keenex. and while you are at it, as he is so close to you, you can tell him to sort his name out.

    kattar are you blind? i read the post on deenport again - the post was not disrepectful to all scholars but rather a response to the retarded post here:

    "However, maybe it would have been more significant for the shaykh to speak out before the revolution happened or before so many people were killed. After all, the Assad regime's brutality is nothing new and has been ongoing for many, many years.

    It's the protesters who have put their necks on the lines quite literally."

    the brother then replies to HIM nobody else. furthermore, the brother clarifies further down:

    "
    thank you brother Mansoor. and i just want to explain that my response was directed to RR, and was not an attack on other religious leaders, as some here may have interpreted it.

    may Allah protect all those who speak out in the face of injustice."

    so what's your problem now? your buddy's post is clearly more offensive so good job it was deleted.
     
  4. kattarsunni

    kattarsunni Veteran

    Who as made you master of with your poking stick? Why ain't you taking Shykh Yaseen's advice? Does the advice only apply to one or two people?

    No but they can say "The post X was not representative of the Shaykhs views, his views are clear from his speeches and interviews".

    I'm bringing them up because at one point they also "spoke" on behalf of the Shaykh and were very pro Deobandi. That was to refute your point that these people represent Shaykh Sahib.

    I didn't say it was deleted by them. They said it deserved to be deleted.

    You saw that as nearly disrespectful but you do not see them posting that he respects murtad Deobandis as disrespectful? You lost your compass?

    Also, an individual on their was disrespectful to ALL Ulama by questioning their credibility on why they had not backed Shaykh Yaqoubi. That is what (Abdul)Rahman Malik was talking about.
     
  5. sufisticated

    sufisticated New Member

    what you are talking about? do you really think they would post something like that on a deobandi forum:

    "Shaykh Muhammad al-Yaqoubi does not respect deobandi muhaddithin, and makes takfeer of their elders'

    what are you on?

    why are you bringing up Ridhwan and Saqib as their breaking off had nothing to do with them being deobandi or pro-deobandi and needs no mention in the context of this?

    also where is your proof that anyone from Sacred Knowledge deleted the post on deenport? deenport posts can get voted off by anyone. i saw the post as antagonistic and irrelevant to the thread, and almost disrespectful to the Shaykh by saying why weren't other khutbas uploaded and why now etc?

    like i said, keep ranting... Sh Yaseen has already instructed them to stop responding.
     
  6. kattarsunni

    kattarsunni Veteran

    As you have pointed out that post on sunniport previously where i said:

    I was told by someone dear that it was a mistake. I condemn the acts of individuals who have freely used the "Sacredknowledge" banner without any condemnation. The minimum the person using "Sacredknowlege" on the Deobandi forums can do is put up a NEW post saying that he was mistaken.

    If that is the case then they should place a new post on sunniforum which they have not done.

    Shaykh Yaqoubi (q) previously entrusted Rizwan Saleem as a Shaykh and Muqaddam, aswell as Saqib Mahmood both of whom were pro-Deobandi. He would not have cared about our criticisms then either.
    And then we go back to the point of whether this individual is REALLY posting with the guidance of the Shaykh. Let me ask you "sufisticated" was that post with the guidance of the Shaykh or without?

    I don't think you have followed why "Sacredknowledge" was criticised for that. They stated that (Abdul)Rahman Malik's post deserved to be deleted.

    My question remains. Why did it deserve to be deleted?

    As for defending the Shaykh: I do not go on deviant websites like deenport where our mashaikh are attacked. If anyone happened to attack a Sunni Shaykh on a sunni forum then you will see we are the first to defend them. As for deenport then i don't have an account on there.
     
  7. sufisticated

    sufisticated New Member

    kattarsunni is blatantly contradicting himself, take a look at this:

    http://www.masabih.org/showpost.php?p=27578&postcount=11

    1. you admit they made a mistake with the post on sunniforum yet you continue on this tirade.

    2. have you considered that old posts may not be deleted on the sunniforum? where is your husn al-dhann of them

    3. Shaykh Muhammad al-Yaqoubi obviously trusts and works with them - do you think they really care what you say on thie forum?

    4. what benefit is there in your rampage? do you think the Shaykh will stop working with them in the UK because of 'wadood' and 'kattarsunni'? lol!!!

    stop wasting your time and as abu nibras stated 'let them do their work'

    i saw the thread on deenport also and its sad that instead of picking out the person who actually made a criticism of the Shaykh, you chose to highlight the post of 'R Malik' - it clearly shows how much you support the Shaykh.
     
  8. kattarsunni

    kattarsunni Veteran

    Humility is the Key. Admit that it was a False Statement.

    Humility is the Key. Admit that it was a False Statement.

     
  9. kattarsunni

    kattarsunni Veteran

    http://www.sunniport.com/masabih/showthread.php?t=8173&highlight=sacredknowledge+playing

    Whoever posts under "Sacredknowledge" has clearly LIED on the Deobandi issue. He has lied that he represents the Shaykh's point of view on the Deobandi Muhadithin.

    I said in a previous post:

    The origins of the dispute on this thread are:

    http://www.sunniport.com/masabih/showthread.php?t=8933&highlight=syrian+uprising

    "Sacredknowledge" said regarding AbdulRahman Malik's post:

    Here is (Abdul)Rahman Malik's post:

    I want to ask for the second time what is wrong with the above post that it deserved to be deleted?? This 'deservedness' coming from someone who respects Deobandis and still has not taken that comment back in public.

    Either "Sacredknowledge" said that pro-Deobandi comment:

    a: Because the Shaykh told him to

    b: He pulled it out from his own bag


    We know the answer is "b" so he should retract his statement on the Deobandi forum not on these sunni sites. After this re-traction is made we can take these people a bit seriously otherwise it is just another "Lightstudy" type of group.
     
  10. bismiLlah . . .
    as-salamu 'alaykum,

    Kind request: could we please show a little respect for the scholars; doing so does not preclude getting one's point across.
     
  11. Shaykh Sayyid Muhammad al Yaqoubi agrees and testifies to Husaam al Haramain
     
  12. aman mia

    aman mia Guest

    Nasiha to our brothers

    Assalamu alaikumffice:eek:ffice" /><O:p></O:p>
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    I request my brothers of Sacred Knowledge to stop posting on this thread. <O:p></O:p>
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    I also request Sidi Aqdas (the only administrator I know) to please keep an eye on what is posted. Rules of the forum may not have been broken but spreading of bad dhann about our ikhwan is not welcomed. If we are not welcome on your forum, I will request our brothers to silently move away.<O:p></O:p>
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    Firstly, Sacred Knowledge need not provide evidence, to unknown people, to us being Sunni. To set the record straight, Sacred Knowledge are students of Sayyidi Shaykh Muhammad al Yaqoubi. Our Aqida and Manhaj is the Aqida and Manhaj of Ahl al Sunna wal Jama’a as represented by Sayyidi Shaykh Muhammad.<O:p></O:p>
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    Brothers kattarsunni and wadood: You have raised some issues for which you request clarification. Can I request you as your Sunni brother to contact me in person or by mail with your concerns. I will insha Allah try to provide all clarification required.<O:p></O:p>
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    I need not remind us all of our duties to each other. Keeping good opinion is fardh whilst bad dhann is haram. The honour of a muslim is sacred. Our brothers of Sacred Knowledge work extremely hard to spread this deen. We do not need our own brothers to work against us.<O:p></O:p>
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    I hope all my sunni brothers see my words as an advice.<O:p></O:p>
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    Muhammad Yaseen<O:p></O:p>
    Imam, Khatib and Mudarris at Woodlands Road Mosque<O:p></O:p>
     
  13. Sacred Knowledge

    Sacred Knowledge Active Member

    kattarsunni: the Shaykh decides what is released and when it is released. it will be worked on by students of the Shaykh under the Shaykh's guidance. we haven't been working on it for 4 years - in fact, we still haven't started working on it because we have many other projects going on. however, we plan on releasing it insha'Allah.

    "The "Sacredknowledge" law enforcement had it taken down. It was against copyright infringement. The Chakswari Jatts and Khawaje were probably behind it."

    we didn't take anything down. we requested that the video be taken down because the Shaykh would have disapproved. again, you seem to believe we are working independently of the Shaykh.

    here is an easy solution:

    If AJK productions want to upload it - let them ask permission of the Shaykh - they don't need to ask us. the fact is, they didn't ask the Shaykh. if they can do that, why would anyone have a problem?
     
  14. kattarsunni

    kattarsunni Veteran

    The "Sacredknowledge" law enforcement had it taken down. It was against copyright infringement. The real (asl) Chakswari Jatts and Khawaje were probably behind it.
     
  15. kattarsunni

    kattarsunni Veteran

    1. Sayyid Abu alHuda Muhammad alYa'qoubi (q) rightly talks against deviants and 'RMW' in the yet unreleased 'The Way of the Ulama' lecture in 2007. Over four years ago and it is still not released!!

    2. Hamza Yousef later that year taliking for 'RMW' refutes the points mentioned by his teacher Sayyid Muhammad alYa'qoubi (q).

    3. In 2008 Hamza Yousef is invited by "Sacredknoledge" for a "Mawlid".

    'The Way of the Ulama" lecture is still unreleased. It is being edited still after four years.
     
  16. Sacred Knowledge

    Sacred Knowledge Active Member

    we are murids and students of the Shaykh. we don't organise events, or produce CD's except with the Shaykh's permission.

    you are the one complaining that we advertise on other forums - i'm bringing you the example because the Shaykh spoke at the event - we didn't make the decision for the Shaykh. Similarly, the Shaykh as invited to speak on Islam channel. it is called 'reaching out'. through the Shaykh's words, they can change insha'Allah.

    ----

    kattarsunni: you seem touchy, not us!

    "It was a blatant slap in the face. Then he is invited to Ghamkol!!"

    us - touchy?
     
  17. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    AJK Productions published Shaykh Muhammad's talk on the Way of the Ulema on youtube. what happened to it?
     
  18. kattarsunni

    kattarsunni Veteran

  19. kattarsunni

    kattarsunni Veteran

    It seems you are someone very argumentative and cannot cope with a little pressure. You definitely do not speak on the behalf of Shaykh Yaseen.I don't know who you are exactly but can find out by asking a few people i know. But the fact is i don't want to know because you sound very touchy. I only post this because you mentioned me.

    Wadood has a valid cause for concern with closet Deobandis and Perennialists, aswell as sulah kullis.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9adNurOnLU

    In this Mawlid gathering Hamza prayed for the well being of the British troops.

    Many months prior Hamza Yousef refuted Shaykh Muhammad alYa'qoubi for his 'Way of the Ulama' lecture. In that lecture Shaykh Ya'qoubi (h) refuted government funding. Many months later Hamza is invited to Ghamkol by 'Sacredknowledge'.

    Listen to 6 mins onwards, see at 7 min 14 sec:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v7rjyGrsBY&feature=related
     
  20. abu nibras

    abu nibras Staff Member

    Bro Wadood, please cool down and let everyone do their job.
     

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