Jinnah from the Awliya?

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  1. IslamIsTheTruth

    IslamIsTheTruth Well-Known Member

    Why did the British give Pakistan to the Muslims?
    Surely it wasn't a kind gesture.
     
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  2. Mehmet Sekil

    Mehmet Sekil Active Member

    What went wrong and how did the Muslims lose Hind to the british and then the hindus?

    When will the caravan rise and journey once more....

    Ya Allah
     
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  3. abu Hasan

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  5. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    disclaimer: i love my pakistani brothers. some of my best friends are pakistanis - but i don't really bother about the nationality.

    http://sunniport.com/index.php?threads/iqbal-on-nationalism-or-is-it.1646/#post-1698


    REPOST:
    tarana e milli

    cheen o arab hamaraa hindostaaN hamaara
    muslim hain hum; watan hai saara jahaaN hamaara

    tawheed ki amaanat seenoN meiN hai hamaarey
    aasaaN naheeN miTaana naam o nishaaN hamaara

    dunyaN ke but-kadoN meiN pahlaa woh ghar khudaa kaa
    hum uskey paasbaaN haiN woh paasbaaN hamaara

    tayghon key saaye meiN hum, pal kar jawaaN huwey haiN
    khanjar hilaal kaa hai qawmi nishaaN hamaara

    maghrib ki waadiyoN meiN guunji azaaN hamaari
    thamata na thaa kisee se sayl rawaaN hamaara

    baatil se dabney waaley ay aasmaaN nahiN hum
    sau baar kar chukaa hai tu imtihaaN hamaara

    ay gulsitaan e andalus! woh din haiN yaad tujh ko
    thaa teri DaaliyoN par jab aashiyaaN hamaara

    ay mawjey dajlah! tu bhi pahchaanti hai hum ko
    ab tak hai tera daryaa afsaana khwaaN hamaara

    ay arz e paak! teri hurmat pey kaT marey hum
    hai khooN teri ragoN meiN ab tak rawaaN hamaara

    saalaar e kaarwaaN hai Mir e Hijaz apnaa
    is naam se hai baaqi aaraam e jaaN hamaara

    iqbal kaa taraana baang e daraa hai goyaa
    hotaa hai jaadah paymaa phir kaarwaaN hamaara


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    china and arabia is ours, india is ours
    we are muslims and the whole world is our homeland

    the treasure of tawhid is in our hearts,
    it is not easy to wipe out our name and mark.

    the first house we have liberated from idols is the ka'abah;
    we are its custodians, and she is our protector

    we have grown up in the shadows of swords,
    our mascot is the crescent shaped dagger

    our prayer calls have reverberated in the valleys of the west,
    the force of our flow could not be stopped by anyone

    o the skies! we will not be subdued by falsehood,
    you have tried (our steadfasteness) a hundred times!

    o, the garden of andalusia! do you remember those days -
    when our abode was the nest on your branches?

    o, the waves of tigris! surely, you recognize us -
    your river tells our tales even to this day [*]

    o, the pure land! we have bled and died for your honor,
    our blood flows in your veins until now [**]

    the leader of our caravan, is the Prince of Hijaz [Sallallahu alayhi wa sallam]
    it is his name that keeps our heart in comfort and peace.

    iqbal's song is a clarion call
    for the caravan to rise and continue the journey once more

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    * probably referring to the mongol incident when the invaders threw entire libraries into the river. it is said that its waters were colored by the ink for many days.

    ** either Haram ash-Sharif or Karbala
     
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  6. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    even if he did. it is just one opinion or a dream enough?

    it is no secret that i have never been able to find a justification for the creation of pakistan. two-nations as two 'peoples' is a different case. but geographical separation is something i could not digest nor find a rationale for.

    that it happened, and could not be undone is another story.

    ---
    frankly, those who extol the making of pakistan are local ulama - predominantly punjabi ulama - because they didn't have to face any consequences. but it is also a reality that today's pakistan is not an ideal islamic state - so how would you answer the objection that if RasulAllah sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam himself supported the creation of this state (vide dreams, visions etc.), then why the many failures?

    al-iyadhu billah. we should fear to use his blessed name - SallALlahu alayhi wa sallam - in vain.


    ===
    as you might have noticed - not a whimper has been heard by the grand army that will soon conduct ghazwah e hind, concerning muslims being killed in india, merely for being muslims! not that we are asking for sympathy; only introspection. (at least not yet. we have still not reached the level of palestinians and rohingyas and kashmiris yet. nas'alu Allaha al-aafiyah and we ask Allah ta'ala to give relief for muslims everywhere).

    ---
    suppose all of us had left india and went to pakistan or bangladesh. let us assume even kashmir had acceded to pakistan. take a look at today's news:

    https://thewire.in/208223/dont-pain...y-custodians-hindutva-group-talks-demolition/

    this would have been a 70 year old news.

    apparently according to the creators of pakistan and the grand vision, this along with tens of thousands of mazars and millions of graveyards and mosques should have been abandoned for the 'dream' of pakistan which apparently was sanctioned by RasulAllah sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam.

    don't forget that it is not those who went to pakistan who protected and tended these millions of masjids and graveyards. it is those who stayed back in an india which anyway had a hindu majority; we were just dispossessed of the political right.

    did the grand plan of the creators of pakistan consider this? if not, tell us what was the grand plan for those who were left behind?


    Allah ta'ala knows best.
     
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  7. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    do they forget that Allah is Able to get His works done through anyone?
     
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  8. Mehmet Sekil

    Mehmet Sekil Active Member

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