Marrying a Wahabi/ deviant

Go with her Father or Brother and seek advice from a sunni mufti, explain her situation to him and ask what the Shari ruling on this is for her situation.

 

Family ties, cast, same village back home etc etc

 

Bradaari means

 

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she'll probably stay with him because they are from the same "braadari"

 

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Ma shallah very good post brother shows the mind set of these people, they will stoop to whatever levels to perpetuate their deviancy. I heard recently that they are paying millions of rupees (riba monies from qatar and wahabites od saudi) to refer to deobandi, ahle hadeeth (ahle khabees) et al as sunni ulema.

 

Give answer.
If a sunni sister marries a sunni. After some years of marriage he convert into Wahabi. What does sis supposed to do ?

 

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Ma shallah very good post brother shows the mind set of these people, they will stoop to whatever levels to perpetuate their deviancy. I heard recently that they are paying millions of rupees (riba monies from qatar and wahabites od saudi) to refer to deobandi, ahle hadeeth (ahle khabees) et al as sunni ulema.

 

Im not surprised,
very shaytani tactics

 

I remember not to long a group of wobblers held a lecture at their temple, from what I heard it was geared towards the young lads looking for potential wifes, so it was a wobbly marriages event you could call it lol.

From what I was informed the speakers adviced the male audience to look for revert sisters to marry as its easier for them to make her adopt the wobbly teachings and they wouldn't encounter any resistance from her since she's not really gonna know much, they were told that this way the wife will be upon their Aqeeda in a matter of weeks and as will all future kids from her...

Then they were told why this is a better option than marry a apni girl from here or desi from Pakistan, the basic view from the wobs was that apni girls are mostly sunni and even if she's not that solid on Aqeeda herself, her family will be, dad, ,brothers, uncles, aunties, mum, sisters etc etc.. and that all these individuals will make it difficult for her to accept becoming a wobbler and will constantly challenge her new views & beifes and thus in all likelihood stop her being a proper wobbler and the kids will also develope love towards sunni grandparents who will influence them towards sunni Aqeeda.

Basic thinking by them is Marry a revert and you will 99% of the time turn her and have a instant wobbly family, on the other hand marry a apni sunni girl and you will have a instant challenge and uphill struggle due to her family.... See how sly they are!

 

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Hit the nail on the head.............well stated

 

Sunni Sister married to a Sunni brother as time goes by… her husband adapts wahhabi/deobandi aqidah

Sunni sister now slowly adapts this wahhabi aqidah from her husband

“Prophet is not Noor, Prophet does not have ilme ghaib…etc”

“Wasilah/Tawassul is bidah/shik”…etc…etc

Sunni Sister says to her husband “you know you are right”

Husband says: I know… I have proof, thanvi,ghongi,zakariya…etc said so in their books!

Now Sunni Sister believes “Mawlid is Bidah”… etc

Sunni sister’s brother invites her to take part in Mawlid

Sister says to her brother “what you are doing is Bidah/shirk…etc

Her Brother says “no its not Bidah”

Brother explains…

Now Sister is confused?

She asks her husband…

Husband says “no its bidah/shirk I have already proven and your brother is a bidatee”

Next Eid

Brother and sister don’t meet because of difference in beliefs/Aqidah!

 

From my understanding it is only forbidden to socialise with deviants, if your family members are sunni then there's nothing wrong with socialising with them.

If they don't belong to any particular group but hold no dodgy views and class themselves as being sunni then I don't understand why one should avoid them, infact I would say it's easier to word those people up about deviants than it is someone who is already part of a deviant group.

 

Ah I understand.
I think its all contextual. You have to decide based on your perception of the situation.
The category you described about they are nice and warm and don't seem to know much about the specifics, I think this is a common category and many encounter relatives like this. As far as I know you probably don't have to meet them everyday and they don't pose any danger and seem like genuinely nice people, then there isn't really a point in cutting ties off with them if they rarely pose a stance.
The cutting ties fatawa are, I think, related to those relatives who are staunch and obstinate on their deviance and can pollute you as well, cutting ties with them will only prove to be beneficial because of their persistence and so on. So socialising with them can be harmful but you have to consider your whole situation in perspective. It might be that you just socialise on Eid or something for an hour and they're not talking about their beliefs. I have deobandi relatives who I'm not very close with but we occassionally meet on Eid or something and they dont really discuss their deobandi-ness anyway, cutting ties with them is likely to cause heightened sensitivity amongst the family, and directly challenging them and telling them they are wrong may not reap benefits either because I don't know them very well and they have no reason to listen to me either , so in the situation I choose to just get the meeting over and done with and prioritise myself rather than coordinating the salvation of relatives with no niyyat or desire

 

Yes I understand what could happen if one marries a Deviant. But I don't understand regarding not socialising with them. Like I said it is only us who are on this Aqeedah. My immediate aunts, uncles, cousins etc do belong to Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaa. Now some haven't even discovered any sect at all. They just read Salaah and do the other fundamentals. Basically I have relatives who aren't aware of the differences between various sects. They are nice to us, warm, welcoming and they do not propagate us anything related to Islam.
Why should one cut off ties with such relatives? I have already asked this on some other sunni forum and I got replies that I dont have to.
But then again I see here suggestions of not socialising with them. This gets confusing :S

 

Even if you get married and you don't have children to pass the deviant aqeeda on to, it is still not going to be fruitful, the danger is still there, even if you don't have children, that man or woman is deviant and disagreements relating to who will wash the dishes or anything can escalate in to something much more serious if tensions get high enough ..
Or in some cases a deviant spouse deliberately hides it away from you and tries to make himself seem very similar to you, deceptively, this is also going to be harmful.. You won't be able to enjoy marital life with these kinds of implicit energies lingering over your head ..
Often in marital life you get very "zoomed" in to each other, aware of each other's activities and preferences and so on, some people will say "oh you're not going to talk about aqeeda all the time, what does it matter?" e.g. if you marry a Shia "oh you're not going to talk about Karbala all the time, so the differences are practically non-existent" - this is foolish and falsehood. Aqeeda forms the foundations of your behaviour, actions, thoughts, and feelings, something minor and insignificant can have a greater impact that we might not foresee. Why take the risk?

(Of course, my saying this doesn't imply that you think marrying deviants is a good thing, i was just expanding the concept)

On another note: I have been making an online questionnaire for Sunnis, I haven't launched yet but it will be cool if you guys could look over it and see if it's any good. I was interested in making it because often on marriage websites they ask you to describe your partner or "what you are looking for" and sometimes that can be quite difficult to answer so I composed questions in a way that can still make you reflect but not with such open / vague questions. Here's the link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1sDoevvN-6SG30qBtDsfbzzrTcHjUqH-kWHpWrrzMvVU/viewform

 

Have a read of this if you already haven't... short but to the point.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/q41esi3s9igzyey/MARRYING IN THE FAMILY OF DEVIANTS.pdf?dl=0

 

I don't understand how these Wahhabis accuse sunni as Biddatis /kafir and want have relations with them.
Their idiotic wahabi stand is exposed here.

 

Hazrat Mawlana Naveed Ashrafi advising not to sit with deviants

 

My apologies Sister..thought you were a brother...advice still stands though lol...make dua for a Sahih ul aqeeda sunni man with a good character..may Allah Ta'ala bless you.