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Discussion in 'Bickering' started by Umar99, Mar 30, 2016.
Islamic event or not, Muslims should always maintain pardah.
"Mufti" Munawwar.... ???? Oh please! Since when has takhassus been to simply read "Rasm ul Mufti" and your qualified to give legal verdicts? The level of scholarship is ridiculous and the titles are preposterous!
It's not a quiz show; are you more knowledgable then Mufti Fazal, thought as much he is the senior last time I went Bradford at the centre.
You can think you have a right to pick and choose; you know if you really want to do write something or do something go ring 999 and let the operator know you need an ambulance for inferiority complex disorder.
Do you agree with them quoting Mark Hanson?
Are you some kind of authority; that overlooks events? Last time I remembered the al Mustafa centre head principal was non other then Mufti Muhammad Fazal Bandayalvi one of the best Muddaris in this country.
The centre itself is a centre of excellence, the amount of work it has done with Young people is beyond anyones reach . For a Sunni Mosque/Centre it is leading the way and should be used as an example.
the devil may quote the scripture for his purpose.
Are alMustafa centre in Bradford maureeds of Shaykh Yaqoubi?
They are promoters of Mark Hanson
they have booked mufti monawwar for an event
you can find quotes of mark hanson all overe here
they also have sulla kulla teachers such as saad peters teaching in their institute
Dont think there is a need for mufti saab to attend this at all to be honest
So what you're saying is it was by mistake that in the past you invited deviants to your platform thus unwittingly giving them a opportunity to influence unaware sunni youths?
Im not here for fitna brother if that was the case I would have gone about this in a totally different manner, I have used the word "unwittingly" above to afford you the benefit of the doubt as you may not have entirely been aware of the people you invite to speak at your events... But this is part of the issue as university societies or even masjid committee's the people running such events and booking speakers need to bother to fully research the individuals before inviting them to platforms.
If you had fully read my post prior to this I did mention that if you have now stoped inviting dodgy people and turned to reliable sunni ulama then well done & shabaash for making the changes and doing the correct thing... My gryp was more about the inviting deviant speakers than anything else because that's how sullah kulliyat starts & spreads, if you continue to keep away from deviants and continue to use proper sunni ulama then there is no more issue and in that I wish you success.
But what was the ruling he actually gave and was it just applicable to that one situation & event or did he say you could go ahead with future events also without a proper form of segregation?
How long does it take to post on FB? fpr all you know they could be pre wtitten?
Alhamdulillah yes I am. Youre not the only one that sends Shaykh messages how many people is Shaykh meant to reply to?
Shaykh very rarerly replies to his emails too and as for his number its his private number so I can not give that out.
How about you go see them tomorrow face to face Cradley Heath Central Mosuqe 14:00-16:00 or are you too busy again?
Bismillah when a mufti has given a ruling, a correct mufti as well, then I don't really care what you think
again that was the past, having made a mistake on the matter, why are you not commentating on what we are doing now?, if a group has changed you still attack them?.. you are here for the purpose of fitna!
I never said he didn't know rulings, I said I didn't agree with non segregation at islamic events.
Answer me this then, why did you invite the likes of ninowy to your events previously? also imam khalid who is known to be snuggled up to deobandits... Do you not think this is promoting of people that are doubtful at best... shouldn't you be trying to steer people clear of individuals like that rather than providing them with a platform?
Agent X Mufti Monawwar Pirzada is not too busy to constantly be on facebook posting almost daily
Your very close to him ask him for me please either by text or call even better give me an email or phone number
I asked him on Facebook but get no reply. I'm nor quite sure why he gets time to post but not time to reply to these issues through fb
You should ask Abu Hasan why he thinks mufti monawwar pirzada should clear stance because you must disagree with him also
I'm sure you yourself don't agree with Shaykh yaqoubi or sitting with pirzada
So when Mufti Zahid came to the alahadrat (alayhi rahma) event, and we told him the predicament, he gave us permission to continue, so let me guess he doesn't know islamic rulings, maybe you should teach him? lol! joke!
astagfirullah! the ITS is not sullah kulli, and instead of hiding here and sayingit, why don't you meet me tomorrow in uni, and we can discuss this, if everyone wants we can have a recording of the discussion.!
hahaha, ITS don't like the fact a new society is becoming more successful?? hahaha lol get your fact straight!, ITS came after madani and we have worked well with the original founder and president, let me guess you don't know who that is do you???!!
it seems either you don't know anything about the issue, or you came here to cause fitna.. in either case... go study and then speak!
Bismillah for those who have a problem with the ITS can you please post them on the following thread, so I may rectify misunderstandings.
jazakallah khairan wa ahsanal jazaa
Why is it funny? Most of the entire opposition to Hamza Yusuf and his Dante/Lahori comments were done online. I didn't see Sh Asrar or Mawlana Danyaal make a youtube video about it, did you? The point is, they still made it public.
So just because a small group of people may know about Sh Asrar's position on Sh Yaqoubi and all the issues brought up here, doesn't mean everyone else is aware.
Like I said, Sh Yaqoubi followers could equally say that the Sh has clarified all these concerns, and it's well known amongst people. Just because you don't know about it, doesn't mean the clarification is not here.
Ultimately, define 'making one's stance public'. Mentioning to a small group of people in private gatherings, without any recordings or anything probably doesn't count in this day and age...
Made me laugh
1 - Because scholars dont sit on forums and youtube so people like yourself should make them aware...
2 - Disagree
B? - What is meant by keeping your aqeedah in the classroom?
3 - Too* busy
4 - Why do I need to ask Abu Hasan why he said "Mufti Saab's stance should be clear"?
I still do not understand - you have all these concerns, yet we are still to see you tae any steps to resolve the issue, why is this?
I dont think Shaykh Monawwar is going to come and read your concerns on this forum sorry to break your heart
I disagree. For the benefit of people outside Birmingham, and even the UK, I believe his stance on Sh Yaqoubi needs to be made loud and clear. As does Mufti Monawwar's.
Is there a reason or reasons why his stance is not being made public?