Pak o Hind Mufakireen meet in Hounslow

Discussion in 'Bickering' started by Aqib alQadri, Sep 11, 2014.

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  1. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    where in that photo is mawlana azmi
  2. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Shah Jee - Mawlana Aqdas is a Pakstaani
  3. Nawazuddin

    Nawazuddin Veteran

    Aqdas, you guys always defend your indian mawlanas and make all types of excuses. Very unfair.
  4. Nawazuddin

    Nawazuddin Veteran

  5. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Hazrat Mufakkir e Islam did refute Mufakkir E17 the following year in Bradford

  6. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    This was after Mufakkir E17's Zubdah was released
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  7. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    What if mufakkir e islam azmi didn't know beforehand that hasanayn's ex-mate paqs will be there?
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  8. Nawazuddin

    Nawazuddin Veteran

    I think, brother Aqdas will be able to shed light on the issue:)
  9. Sacred

    Sacred Active Member

    No disrespect intended at all Agent X

    But is he not your pir? surely you should be more in a state of shock? you seem quite relaxed and are asking other's to get clarifications made?

    I am sure if this was another big scholar who had done the same thing you would have been upset about it? as can be shown from several threads from sunnaforum.

    Agent how many of the sulla's have you phoned to get clarification?
  10. agent-x

    agent-x Well-Known Member

    Why would I be able to explain better?

    Maybe you can contact Allama Saab on [MOD: not sure if you should give his number out in public, unless it is publicly listed; use PMs]

    Let me know too thanks

    So many questioning but no one has the courage to call Allama Saab and ask them...
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  11. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    i don't know about what Mawlana Abdul Aleem said in those specific discourses, but i have read some of his other discourses in interfaith dialogue and they are nothing like the hanson and jifry style 'we love our holy father benedict xvi' and 'Muslims and christians are gonna hang out at the same country club in Firdaws Al-A3la' exercises in zandaqah and shamelessness.

    Mawlana Abdul Aleem talks about worldly matters common to all people and maintaining general peace in multicultural societies. he spoke about ground realities and practical solutions to ensure smooth functioning of society on ground. if i can dare say it without being misconstrued, he was an astute and honest politician who had it in him to walk the tight rope between maintaining his own self respect and dignity and Muslim AND SUNNI interests, as well as not coming across as a 'terrorist' or 'raghead'.

    i doubt if any of these 'citizen-khan' shaykhs living in the uk for the last 20 years have even half of his command over the english language! i dunno if phd prof. dr. mufakkir paqs has even once delivered a speech in english!

    besides, he also worked very hard to invite people to Islam. these present day sell-outs like hanson, tahir, and tahir's cohorts have openly stated they don't wish to proselytize and they have no problems with the christians maintaining their current belief systems.

    comparing his approach with the approach of these sold out lackeys is like comparing - (big sigh) - chalk and cheese!
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  12. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    I believe ulama are out of their depths here, more responsibilities have been thrust upon them or they have themselves taken up than they can handle and so they are doing things, without giving much forethought, which they hope will help the cause of the ummah.

    The issues screaming for attention are too many, they are overwhelmed and we don't have giants amongst us anymore.

    I say this only for the well-intentioned ones, who do not betray heretical leanings, like Azmi sahib.

    one scholar told me:

    have you read about Muballigh e Islam, Mawlana Abdul Aleem Siddiqi Meeruthi's actions during the communist onslaught on the ummah? He even wrote letters to christian priests and outlined for them what their responses should be and how they should react in order to stem the tide of communism. Had he done this today no doubt he would've been accused of sulha-kullism. really, that's what's happening to mawlana Qamaruzzaman sahib.

    disclaimer: I do not have any reason to think that this scholar knows each and everything that is going on and I believe his comments are generic. He is not a sulha kulli himself, so far as I know. But he's done his Phd form an Arab country, if that matters.

    Maybe Azmi sahib is trying to walk in the footsteps of Allamah Meeruthi ('alayhirrahmah) but ending up taking such decisions.

    Shaykh Asrar has so far been able to give his times and circumstances a slip. He's a beacon of hope. I hope he continues to brave the waves of compromise and sulha and I wish he's able to bring to the attention of these senior scholars the huge issues that are at stake.

    Allah('azzawajal) knows best.

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  13. Sacred

    Sacred Active Member

    Everyone continues to amaze us

    They keep falling one by one....
  14. Sacred

    Sacred Active Member

    Agent X would be able to explain this better?
  15. Sacred

    Sacred Active Member

    I hope no one comes out with excuse that people didnt know AQ was a tafzili because that would be ridiculous.
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  16. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    he came to Canada and for an hour was screaming on the mic unnecessarily disrupting the entire majlis and prompting Pakistanis in the gathering to continuously imitate and tease him as a halwa munching mullah making the whole gathering a laughing event. Gave me a severe headache

    i heard that he had done tawba for some reason in the past.
  17. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Mufakkir Bihari says we are all human Sidi

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  18. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    Does shaykh Qamar uz zaman 'Azami know that PAQS is a tafDili and insulter of Sahaba Kiraam. Does Shaykh Shahid Raza know this?
  19. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Such love between the different thinkers tonight

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  20. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Imam e Ahle Sunnat Mufakkir e Islam Pir Sayyid Dr Abdul Qadir Gilani, Mufakkir e Islam Allama Dr Qamar uz Zaman Azmi and Mufakkir e Islam Allama Dr Pir Shahid Raza Naeemi Ashrafi Bihari in Hounslow today

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