pir abdul qadir walthamstow UK Arrival

Discussion in 'Smalltalk' started by kattarsunni, Jul 25, 2011.

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  1. The Emir

    The Emir Well-Known Member

    I don't think I am too far off being the Imam of Ahle Sunnah at this rate!!!!!!!!!

    I will create division among sunnis by going against Sunni aqidah and raise wholly unnecessary issues and get my title!!
  2. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Firstly, is it me or am i right in thinking that the first prerequisite for an imam e ahl e sunnat is that he be a sunni?

    Secondly, this is not aimed at this particular video but every such massive hoo-haa at airports upon the arrival of one's pir etc. i have always seen it as bad etiquette to 'take over' an airport. i think pirs should have enough about them to stop murids causing a huge fuss and shouting slogans and doing very loud dhikr at an airport. Why not just wait till he gets home?!

    i actually think a sound mufti may pass fatwa that this infringes on other airport users' rights. it is a physical obstruction and surely quite intimidating to non-muslims at least. do you think other people can easily use the exit this crowd used and then blocked? it is most certainly an obstruction.

    And I also see it as a competition. These things didn’t used to happen a few years ago – perhaps a leading ‘alim was received by a choice few admirers, quickly and quietly. Now, I feel murids of pirs feel the need to compete – “if 200 murids turned up for your pir and created a peak noise level of 120 decibels, we will go for 400 murids and 150 decibels!”

    Next, we will have coaches being organised like we do for big jalse! Flags being handed out and a few mics? Why not? Also, just imagine the cumulative amount of money spent on fuel for all these guys?

    I think all of this is against the basic requirement of showing modesty. don't get me wrong because i think love for one's pir is admirable but surely there is a time and place and appropriate methods to show it?

    please correct me if this rant was uncalled for and I have no issues eating my words.

    ps: heathrow is one word.
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2011
  3. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    my late teacher raHimahullah used to remark, 'nowadays every ordinary maulvi thinks he is like alahazrat or mufti azam e hind; and that is where the problem is.'

    this was some 17-18 years ago at the height of ashrafi-razvi war.*


    it would be unfair to not mention the advice (written and published as a phamplet by ashrafi murideen) by mawlana madani miyan sahib advising common sunnis to not get involved in difference of opinion among mashayikh and continue to regard each other as sunnis, and leave these issues to ahl al-ilm. unfortunately, for the sunnis in india - it has fell on deaf ears.
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2011
  4. Muhammad Ali

    Muhammad Ali Veteran

    He was better of in Pakistan, he isn't needed in the UK. Neither the Pakistan Scholars want him their, so I guess he has to live somewhere.
  5. ghulam-e-raza

    ghulam-e-raza Well-Known Member

    Imam e Ahle Sunnat?
  6. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

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