Shahid Ali and Mufti Aslam with devbandis

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  1. Sunni By Nature

    Sunni By Nature Active Member

    Lets not forget the time when Pir Saqib Shaami attacked Shaykh Muhammad al-Yaqoubi when he called for general Muslim unity. Saqib advised his blind followers not to meet the Shaykh, He must have felt humiliated when he had to pray behind Shaykh Muhammad al-Yaqoubi when the Shaykh led the Janaza of Shaykh Mohammed Aslam's sister.

  2. Hanafi786

    Hanafi786 New Member

    Lets not forget Saqib Shaami who advised Shahid Ali to attack Asrar and also Saqib attacked Pir Siddiqui in his weekly gathering for giving deviants a stage during a protest.

    Habib Jaami attended the Birmingham protest alongside Ijaz Shami and represented Kanz ul Huda and read naats with Deobandis, will Saqib refute Habib Jaami now?

    Saqib even shook Modi's hand who kills Muslims for time pass.

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  3. Hassan_0123

    Hassan_0123 HhhhhhhM_786

    Also in addition to my post before... what's the ruling on Mufti Muneeb Ur Rahman uniting with Taqi Uthmani on moonsighting issue? Which is far less of an issue than this Shia movie? Or the ruling on Allama Shah Noorani uniting with Deos against Qadiyanis?
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  4. rawatrwi

    rawatrwi New Member

    unity? unity is a strong word here. it is important to consider the ultimate goal: the honour of our beloved Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم. please be sincere, what is the harm in standing with deviants against open blasphemies shown in that film? we should not let even the slightest remark or disrespect slide as it opens doors for other atrocities; france, films, pictures, BJP scum. it is quite ironic when the filthiest, most immoral group of people on the face of the earth have the audacity to question the morality of our Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم. what is better than to stand for the honour of our Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم. true love doesn’t ask useless questions such as who, what, where, why, when. as dr. iqbal wrote; aql ayār hai sau bhes banā letī hai.

    rather, we should be proud of our sunni ulema who have gone out to protest achieving the outcome of all uk branches of cineworld no longer showing the film. indeed, protesting has an effect. in this day and age, protesting is the way to move forward. nothing is weak about protesting. who are the greater evil? deviants are better than the gustakh enemies of islam. ok.. deviants want to protest, no problem. after all, it is for the honour of our Rasool صلى الله عليه وسلم. it is also a great way to show the public and the deviants that peaceful demonstrations and sittings are an evidence of sufi ideology and that we believe in firm dialogues against thugs. just because it is at the same place doesn’t mean mawlana shahid and the devs have ‘united’, lets have some husn e zan. they are qualified scholars i am sure they are aware of what they are doing. have they committed deviance? no, simple. what is the need to look left and right at who is standing with you whilst protesting when you have come out for a noble cause rather than sitting quietly and watching. moreover, yes devs and wahhabis are our enemies but we’re forgetting who the main enemies are for us as muslims in the uk; farangī kuffar. there is no need to drag shaykh asrar and mawlana shahid's personal issues into this, disappointing to see. the honour of our prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم comes before any of this.

    as imām mālik may Allāh have mercy upon him said, as quoted in al shifā of qādī iyād:
    ‎"the muslim nation has no justification to remain after the insult of its Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم."

    if we need an example from recent times we may take a look at amīr ul mujāhidīn allamā khādim husayn rizvī; a sufi who stood for the honour of RasoolAllah صلى الله عليه وسلم –'gal sāri Sarkār صلى الله عليه وسلم di hai.’ he was not from those men who lit the stages with their sensational sermons, he was the man of his words, he was equally active on ground. he stood fearless for his love and respect towards the holy Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم in front of the world’s greatest political powers. he left this world fearless with dignity and honour. for men like these, no match will be found ever, their ideas will always flourish. in shā Allah.

    i cannot think of anything better one can do in these unfortunate times than an activist who peacefully exercises his democratic right of debate and dialogue to defend the honour of his beloved Rasool صلى الله عليه وسلم.
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  5. Hassan_0123

    Hassan_0123 HhhhhhhM_786

    So what's the ruling on a qualified scholar (E.g. Mufti Aslam) uniting with deviant sects (Deobandis) against a bigger evil (Shia movie)?

    I've always thought as long as a qualified scholar attends such a gathering and does not unite on deviance which they haven't done, then it's fine...?
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  6. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    independent question:

    which mawlanas of Sunnis or other sects have spoken against that nupur sharma against her blasphemy, either independently or jointly (with other sect mawlanas)? who has at least spoken against her after she was supposedly expelled from the bjp?

    being outside of india, i'm only seeing the protests lodged by the governments, and some news and pics of people protesting on streets, but mainstream media hasn't reported any opposition by mawlanas.
  7. Sunni By Nature

    Sunni By Nature Active Member

    The Lady of Heaven Protest in Leeds with Imam Shahid Ali, Mufti Aslam Bandyalvi, Maulana Usman Iqbal Deobandi and Maulana Abdul Haleem Deobandi:

    The victory announcement:

    The Lady of Heaven Protest in Birmingham with Imam Ijaz Shami, Maulana Haroon Raza, Imam Mohammed Shoaib [student of Shaykh Asrar Rashid], Ustadh Haji Salafi and Shaykh Abdul Jabbar Deobandi:

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  8. Hanafi Sunni

    Hanafi Sunni Well-Known Member

    Are sunnis gone this weak that we now need to stand with deviants to voice ourselves against the enemies of islam?

    Did A'lahazrat stand up with deobandis to speak against the British regime in India?
    Did Mufti e aazam hind stand up with deobandis in the shuddhi movement?

    On the apparent, in the first minute, Mufti Aslam sahab is seen asking haleem questions, as if they are very good close mates, furthermore they are standing with each other as if they are good friends with their hands tied as Allama Qutbe Bradford Mufti shahid ali speaks.

    This is a massive fitna and innocent sunni masses are being deceived here. From now on every sunni scholar will be given the license to stand with deobandis and deviants and the innocent public will start thinking we are all muslims and there is no difference amongst us.

    Wasnt shahid sahab the one who mentioned that anybody who doubts Hussam ul Haramayn and the kufr of the deo elders a kafir himself.
    so what is he doing with these kafirs (haleem and usman).

    Very intresting: at around 9 mins he says "mainstream muslim scholars have come out from every school of thought and said ISIS has nothing to do with islam"
    Are deobandis "mainstream Muslim scholars"?

    Allah forgive me for bad assumptions here but it seems like there was a massive unity & plot made among shahid sahab and these deobs to lynch shaykh Asrar. This can be corroborated by the fact that the deobs immediately uploaded the video on their channel, even thought moulana shahid deleted it.

    Most importantly, how did Mawlana shahid sahab forget that these doebandis (halim and usman) have created thousands of clips against A'lahazrat, most of which are fabrications and lies. see below halim deo accuses A'lahazrat of disrespect of Sayyidah Ayesha Siddiqa Radi Allahu Anha.[id]=&AudioSearch[title]=deobandi&AudioSearch[artist_id]=&AudioSearch[album_id]=&AudioSearch[genre_id]=&AudioSearch[tags]=&AudioSearch=&q=/audio&page=168&sort=-artist_id,id,-title,url,-tags,genre_id&per-page=100

    In clip number 26584 Huzoor Tajush shariah states shia, deobandis and wahabis are much worse than actual kaafirs.
    in clip 26809 Huzoor Tajush Shariah mentions "to go to the house of your nana(deobandi) is not jaiz"
    so what gives shahid sahab the authority to stand with these baboons?

    I pray Allah guides Mufti shahid sahab and give him the ability to be just, more importantly give him the ability to respect sunni ulama who are doing great work. Aameen
  9. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

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  11. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's. - this is the similar issue

    All brothers and sisters abroad should organize protests to raise awareness of a BDS campaign against india
  12. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Kyabbaat hai! These two of all people :)

    Unless these two are reliably confirmed to be apostates, i see no harm* in standing with them against open blasphemies shown in that garbage movie.

    This however necessitates something on the part of Shahid and Aslam saab - they should retract their idiotic allegations of sulah kulliyat on Asrar Rashid

    AND they should acknowledge that Asrar Rashid was actually a few steps ahead of them in hikmah (despite being younger than Aslam saab) when he sat with HT on Palestine issue or with others on other issues concerning the ummah at large and in general.

    * In case anyone gets a heartburn at my comment, that's always been my position for what its worth as a common person - see the thread on the CAB bill for instance -


    Even on the related recent issue of blasphemy by that rotten bjp hag, it's a similar case
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  13. Sunni By Nature

    Sunni By Nature Active Member

    He is referring to the hypocrisy of Imam Shahid Ali and Mufti Aslam Bandyalvi and their unity with Maulana Usman Iqbal Deobandi and Maulana Abdul Haleem Deobandi:

    This is what Molvi Umer Asif Shadhili [student of Shaykh Mufti Wajid Iqbal Shadhili] had to say on their unity:

    Muhammad Umer Asif.jpg

    Imam Shahid Ali and Mufti Aslam Bandyalvi should be declared Sulah Kulli.
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  14. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Brother, why waste bandwidth if you don't want to share details?
  15. Bidah Destroyer

    Bidah Destroyer New Member

    We live in strange times.

    People like shahid love to attack Sunni scholars for cheap fame and call them Sulla Kullis. However, themselves they feel it's okay to share a stage with Ghustakhs to attack Gustakhs.

    Mind-boggling Logic.
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