Warning others of Deobandies and Wahabies

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  1. MoslemMale

    MoslemMale New Member

    Asalamu alaikum, i need someone to help clarify an issue in the video below. It's from a well known deobandi, i watched this video a while back but the objection raised @28.15 about Imam Ahmed Raza Khan (rahimullah) is bugging me, please watch all of the video, if not then from 28.15 mins. Jazakullah.

    Edited by mod noori : post the objection, we don't promote deobandies, specially dr. khalid mahmood is an utter shamless liar.
     
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  2. Brother Barry

    Brother Barry Veteran

    I would suggest you sift through YouTube and perhaps see what comes up, in all likelihood you won't find in one video all the things on your wish list.

    I would say look for videos that specifically are centered around explaining that barelvi isn't any different from sunni... once you've clarified that then move on to the other points you mention. You can also crop/cut any irrelevant challenges out of videos if you are downloading them.
     
  3. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    Right, but he may have talked about it in another speech, molana sahib said that he was not done. Also, brothers can pass on this message to him so that he not only address those present in his masjid but also the internet audience.

    Masha Allah his speech was very nice and i farwarded it to friends, however since molana sahib is a qualified scholar he should not
    a) challenge on the condition of having his beard shaved if proven false. It is not allowed
    b) pronounce 'abaraat', it is 'ibaraat'. I am sure he knows the correct pronunciation. I know that it was only due to old habit, i too make many such mistakes while i know the correct pronunciation for example sahab instead of sahib, beyaan instead of bayaan. But molana sahib is adressing people and challenging deobandis who may catch up on such minor things.

    mufti akmal qadri's Talaffuz Durust Keejiay is a good book for common people like us to correct many common mistakes.
     
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  4. sunni_porter

    sunni_porter Well-Known Member

    That was a good talk.

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    Thoughts off the top of my head:

    1. I wish he used the term Sunni rather than Barelvi, or at least provide an explanation that they are one and the same (given it was a talk at a masjid, he spoke according to the audience who would be aware and don't need an explanation....it's more so for people that you forward the video clip to that are not aware of such things, then it becomes a bit of an issue to explain to them and clear any confusion).

    2. I wish our speakers would not waste time making challenges during the talk (e.g. if I am wrong then I will cut my beard)...it detracts from the talk and is unnecessary.

    3. I wish he mentioned the names of modern day Deos that make outlandish statements or try to cover up their elders' works...this would bring the talk to a full circle.
     
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  5. Brother Barry

    Brother Barry Veteran

    This covers all the main points that are most relevant. Don't know who the speaker is but he did a cracking job clarifying minor issues are not the cause of our opposition to all the Non Sunni groups.

     
  6. AMQadiri

    AMQadiri Seeker

    I can't pinpoint any specific speech at the moment but you can try looking at Hafiz Ehsan Iqbal Qadiri's speeches.
     
  7. sunni_porter

    sunni_porter Well-Known Member

    Often I receive forwarded video clips of Deobandi and Wahabi speakers on Whatsapp from Sunnis (that don't know any better and believe our differences with them are limited only to mawlid).

    Can anyone recommend a video clip that I can send back to these Sunnis that concisely summarizes the reality of these groups and why we should stay away from them. Ideally in Urdu (but English recommendations would be helpful as well). Ideally the speech is given in a calm and eloquent manner (like Allama Raza Saqib Mustafai's talks).
     

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