Cult Mind Control

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  1. Moriarty

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    Mr Baghdadi is a good case study of the 'messiah complex'. Unlike some of his critics, who have 'megalomania', Baghdadi, like Hitler, has actual troops on the ground.

    In this speech, in the Grand Mosque of Mosul, Baghdadi has all the hallmarks of a cult leader, including the paraphernalia of a would be 'caliph'.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqWhUrmVXEU

    Note the way he walks up the pulpit, solemnly, step at a time. It is quiet obvious that he has used make up prior to his appearance. He seems trained well enough.

    He claims to be Husayni, Fatimi, Hashimi in lineage. Ostensibly he is a 'cleric and scholar'. He speaks in eloquent Arabic and quotes verses of the Quran and traditions with exact precision.

    It was claimed that Baghdadi was injured or killed. After this rumor he appeared this past Friday to disprove the rumor. Ever since his appearance he has gained many more followers, in their thousands. The evidence is in the fact that he controls cities with populations in their thousands and touching the millions.

    Baghdadi sees himself as a caliph and therefore takes excerpts from the speeches of earlier Islamic figures.

    Of course his fans, like other cults, will claim that we are wrong in our analysis.
     
  2. Unbeknown

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  3. Moriarty

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  4. Wadood

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    may be for a fee bawas, as most bawas are still with indian, Pakistani, and Bangladeshi Sufis in little England, and mighty North America

    however your comment in regards to British/North American born or raised is weakly applicable because the mindset of British/North American born or raised is very different to the Sub Continentals, Arabs, turks, Persians back home.

    The case of these people is MORE subtle than the simple cults back home
     
  5. Moriarty

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  6. Moriarty

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    How People Build a Cult

    Granted, you might not want to build a cult but knowing how it’s done isn’t just a curiosity. It’s an absolute must for anyone living and working with people. The reason why is that no matter where you go people are always out to protect and promote their own interests.


    Building Your Cult will show you how to spot people with hidden ambitions so you can decide to either join, ignore or fight them. Building Your Cult will give you the tools to master the world of politics and climb the ladder of achievement.


    http://buildingyourcult.com/
     
  7. Moriarty

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    http://harunyahya.com/bilgi/faq

    In the above link A'dnan Oktar answers his critics, including issues like his insinuations that he is 'the Mahdi', and issues relating to women partially dressed in his broadcasts.

    He demonstrates the typical justifications of a cult leader. He attempts to quote Quran and Sunnah.
     
  8. Moriarty

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  9. Moriarty

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    A good example of cult craziness is accepting a crazy opinion and trying extra hard to interpret it:

    http://eshaykh.com/uncategorized/george-bush-and-tony-blair/

    I will paste the answer here in case they take it down:

     
  10. Moriarty

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    Eleven: Show unshakable conviction

    “There’s a whole bag of tricks behind this certainty, usually involving travelling to mysterious places to gather superior wisdom. The performance of an extraordinary or heroic feat also helps, although this can be difficult to contrive.”

    Twelve: Become a receiver

    “In one of the pieces of research I did, the leader stayed in my house and, through that proximity, I experienced another key to charisma – gurus are very good at receiving from other people. In fact they seem to expect everyone to run around anticipating their every need and giving them presents.

    “And so my final cult leader tip is: Become so open to receiving presents and acts of kindness that the thought of giving to you just lights up the pleasure centres in people’s brains.”
     
  11. Moriarty

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    Eight: Load your language

    “When I read Charles Manson’s prison interview, what stood out most for me was how frequently he used the word ‘love’. According to his former followers he was ‘always preaching love’. Even after masterminding nine brutal murders, he says in the interview: ‘Anything you see in me is in you… If you see me as your brother, that’s what I’ll be. It all depends on how much love you have’.”

    Nine: Imply you’re on the verge of fame

    “Cult leaders often suggest they’re on the brink of success and fame and imply that followers will go down in history as part of the greatest story ever told. To get a share of the recognition, devotees then start vying to be their closest disciple. The lesson from this is that a well timed suggestion of impending success can intensify attraction.”

    Ten: View any rejection as superficial or short term

    Cult leaders see themselves as the fountain of all love, so it follows that everyone, whether they realise it or not, is craving them. According to this logic, any rejection is superficial or short term. I’ll never forget the leader who said to me, after I’d decided against pursuing a research interest in his group, ‘That’s all right, you’re not ready for me yet’.”
     
  12. Moriarty

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    Four: Link the seduction to a greater cause

    “A common cult leader tactic is for the leader to claim that his purpose is to free people from their enslavement to others, including partners and family. The person then bonds emotionally with the leader instead, who feels free to do what he wants, while pretending to liberate everyone.”

    Five: Get an iconic photo of yourself

    “Most cult leaders sell flattering pictures of themselves, which they encourage members to carry round with them, place on an altar or wear on a necklace. Nowadays this is done on FB. Rajneesh, aka Osho (the guru whose group did the bio-terror attack in Oregon, USA) went even further and used to give disciples boxes containing cuttings of his hair.”

    Six: Practise mind reading

    A cult leader often focuses like a laser beam on the pining devotee, making them feel like they’re the only person in the room and their heart is an open book. As the leader appears to be able to read the devotee’s consciousness, they hang on to every word, feeling that at last someone truly understands them.

    Seven: Give the occasional breath taking compliment

    “A charismatic leader not only reads a person’s needs and desires, they access ones you didn’t even know you had. Therefore the most important criterion for a powerful compliment is that the speaker has read the person at a deep level. Another important criterion – and probably the trickiest one – is that the compliment has got to show the recipient something they never consciously realised about themselves.”
     
  13. Moriarty

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    12 Tricks used by Cult Leaders:

    1: Adore yourself

    “A cult leader is usually comfortable describing himself (I say ‘himself’ because they’re usually male) as the greatest genius, the highest world leader, the most cosmic lover, and – by some secret spiritual logic – the only person in the world who doesn’t have an ego problem.” The last point can be used very easily by 'Sufi' or other cult leaders as the very aim is to rid ones self of the ego.

    2: Lift your vibe

    “Charisma has been defined as a mysterious, exceptional quality by which a person appears to be endowed with supernatural or superhuman powers. In my experience, the mysterious quality is an ecstatic energy the charismatic leader emanates, which arouses a feeling of stoned-out bliss when you’re in the person’s presence.

    Three: Be thrillingly unavailable

    “The old principle that ‘the more difficult something is to obtain, the more it is valued’, applies here – the more James Bondish you come across, the more valued you are. You can’t fake it, unless you’re Daniel Craig – so it’s not about ‘playing hard to get’, but about genuinely having so much in your life that you’re ecstatically happy regardless of anyone else.”
     
  14. Moriarty

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  16. Moriarty

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    Leaving a cult is a process that takes a long time. It takes a long time to free yourself from the brainwashing, and even when you are finished and through with them and recognize them for charlatans, many of the concepts and ideas that they teach you stick for a long time. Be patient with your son, your daughter, your husband or wife, your friend. Losing the cult in some ways is like mourning the death of a friend. Yes, it was a false illusion, but it represented friendship, spiritual growth, and bonding. Even if you know what these guys are, you are still sad to have lost what it pretended to be.

    http://ktown-survivors.blogspot.co.uk/
     
  17. Yasser Rashid

    Yasser Rashid Active Member

    Khadimu 786 are you suffering cognitive dissonance? If you are just reply to our objections and we will, inshaAllah, diagnose you.

    Otherwise your problem may escalate and you'll become like those "committed members"
     
  18. Moriarty

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    Question: What Is Cognitive Dissonance?

    People tend to seek consistency in their beliefs and perceptions. So what happens when one of our beliefs conflicts with another previously held belief? The term cognitive dissonance is used to describe the feeling of discomfort that results from holding two conflicting beliefs. When there is a discrepancy between beliefs and behaviors, something must change in order to eliminate or reduce the dissonance.

    This is what the cult members suffer from. Imagine a former admirer of some scholar (like Ala Hazrat) who changes his views when his new 'guide' switches his views (like Keller or any of these cult leaders). Many of them go through cognitive dissonance.

    Some of the would have to cope with dissonance of how the practices they carry out are valid in the sacred law?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqXKahsNXEM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcCILiG2N8c
     
    Last edited: Dec 2, 2013
  19. Moriarty

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    Many cult members suffer from 'cognitive dissonance'.

    Cognitive dissonance refers to a situation involving conflicting attitudes, beliefs or behaviors.

    This produces a feeling of discomfort leading to an alteration in one of the attitudes, beliefs or behaviors to reduce the discomfort and restore balance etc.

    Cognitive dissonance theory suggests that we have an inner drive to hold all our attitudes and beliefs in harmony and avoid disharmony (or dissonance).

    For example, when people smoke (behavior) and they know that smoking causes cancer (cognition).

    A powerful motive to maintain cognitive consistency can give rise to irrational and sometimes maladaptive behavior.

    We hold many cognitions about the world and ourselves; when they clash, a discrepancy is evoked, resulting in a state of tension known as cognitive dissonance. As the experience of dissonance is unpleasant, we are motivated to reduce or eliminate it, and achieve consonance (i.e. agreement).

    Cognitive dissonance was first investigated by Leon Festinger, arising out of a participant observation study of a cult which believed that the earth was going to be destroyed by a flood, and what happened to its members — particularly the really committed ones who had given up their homes and jobs to work for the cult — when the flood did not happen.

    While fringe members were more inclined to recognize that they had made fools of themselves and to "put it down to experience", committed members were more likely to re-interpret the evidence to show that they were right all along (the earth was not destroyed because of the faithfulness of the cult members).

    Read the complete article:

    http://www.simplypsychology.org/cognitive-dissonance.html

    Video on cognitive dissonance:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIpacdGcyJc

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
     
  20. Moriarty

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    An Australian interview of a cult expert:

    http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/2007/01/sot_20070128.mp3

    What It Is Like Escaping From a Cult:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/10375807/What-its-like-to-escape-from-a-cult.html

     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2013

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