Cult Mind Control

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  1. Moriarty

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    Fake Imam Mahdi

    From the following article posted above:

    Who are the candidates for Mahdi in the Sufi Cults? One of them is Habib Ali Jifry. He even a minority of other sects entertain this notion:

    http://forums.islamicawakening.com/f20/would-you-do-bayaa-habib-ali-zayn-38778/index3.html

    http://www.sunniport.com/masabih/showthread.php?t=8547

    http://eshaykh.com/doctrine/habib-ali-jiffri-imam-al-mahdi/

    http://wup-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=12272

    Cults entertain this idea by: 1) saying it explicitly that their cult leader is Mahdi 2) alluding to the idea in the inner circle and not saying it explicitly 3) claiming their cult leader is in contact with the 'imam of the time'.
     
  2. Moriarty

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    It is not out of context. He states further down:

    And he states:

    Where has this man ever condemned Israel even though he is living in Jordan?

    He has refuted Sunnis but where has he refuted the 'Amman Message' which is right under his nose?

    http://www.cifiaonline.com/theammanmessage.htm

    Any brainwashed disciples who buy a used miswak for 450 dollars will never listen to reasoning.

    So here Nuh Keller has signed the Amman Message:

    http://ammanmessage.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=21&Itemid=34

    So the Keller mistake is not limited to 'Iman, Kufr and Takfir'. It has a larger agenda. Prince Ghazi has a big role to play in this. To read what he has to say is interesting:

    http://ammanmessage.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=29

    Ghazi funds the Fons Vitae publishing house.

    Tahir Qadri is also associated with the same royals and regarding him:

    http://www.cifiaonline.com/drtahirulqadri.htm

    Amman Message has agreed to:

    So no longer four Sunni schools. What else has Keller and others have agreed to?

    That is the context of 'Iman, Kufr and Takfir'.

    Jordanian Royals, Israel, America, Perennial Thought, and Sufi Cults all have some common interests. This sums up what stream they're on:

    http://www.cifiaonline.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=155078955
     
  3. Yasser Rashid

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    Moriarty to be fair to nuh Keller he didn't mention the 2 state solution in the context that you seem to be making out. Rather he said in clear words: "everyone associated with the Israelis and U.S...." I don't think he deems himself to be associated with neither.

    To be fair the problem us Sunnis demonstrate quite often is generalisations
    based on passed errors. In other words if Nuh Kellers mistakes are unrelated to his non mistakes or his merits then we must draw a distinction between them and outline where he went wrong and leave it as that.

    That's the only way we may convince his followers that he's fallible and human like everyone else. Otherwise if we persist in childish digs and half criticisms we'd merely succeed in making his followers more obstinate and resentful of Sunni Islam.
    Now we surely don't want that because that's exactly what we're supposed to be fighting against.

    Is it not?
     
  4. Moriarty

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    In light of the recent release of 'The Killer Mistake' it would be good to place the Keller Cult auction on this thread. Used miswak was sold for 450 dollars and and used shoes for 750 dollars. Aside from the iron marked t shirt.

    http://alsiraat.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/barakaauction.pdf

    Some have compared Keller to JimJones. Jim Jones was overtly political. Keller is not so. Nevertheless he supports the 'two state solution'.

    http://islam.uga.edu/kellerinterview.html

    That was originally on masud.co.uk

    And what is meant by the fact that he does not know what the future holds?

    This view is not surprising from some who is involved with the Jordanian Royals and supports the Amman Message:

    http://www.cifiaonline.com/theammanmessage.htm

    The background to 'Imaan, Kufr and Takfir' is linked to the Amman Message and other schemes.

    I wander how much the cult members will pay for the original draft?
     
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  9. Unbeknown

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

    Quote:
    Also, it has been argued that selection bias may have played a role in the results. Researchers from Western Kentucky University (Thomas J. Carnahan, PhD and Sam McFarland, PhD) recruited students for a study using an advertisement similar to the one used in the Stanford Prison Experiment, with some ads saying "a psychological study" (the control group), and some with the words "prison life" as originally worded in Dr. Zimbardo's Stanford Prison Experiment. It was found that students who responded to the classified advertisement for the "prison study" were higher in traits such as social dominance, aggression, authoritarianism, etc. and were lower in traits related to empathy and altruism when statistically compared to the control group participants. Carnahan & McFarland attempted to recruit students using a 3rd classified advertisement geared towards "helping behaviors;" however, not enough participants volunteered for the study to show any statistical significance.

    Comparisons to Abu Ghraib

    When acts of prisoner torture and abuse at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq were publicized in March 2004, Zimbardo himself, who paid close attention to the details of the story, was struck by the similarity with his own experiment. He was dismayed by official military and government representatives' shifting the blame for the torture and abuses in the Abu Ghraib American military prison on to "a few bad apples" rather than acknowledging it as possibly systemic problems of a formally established military incarceration system.

    Eventually, Zimbardo became involved with the defense team of lawyers representing one of the Abu Ghraib prison guards, Staff Sergeant Ivan "Chip" Frederick. He was granted full access to all investigation and background reports, and testified as an expert witness in SSG Frederick's court martial, which resulted in an eight-year prison sentence for Frederick in October 2004.

    Zimbardo drew from his participation in the Frederick case to write the book The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil, published by Random House in 2007, which deals with the striking similarities between his own Stanford Prison Experiment and the Abu Ghraib abuses. unquote.

    but this one is more unnerving:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
     
  10. Unbeknown

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    The Stanford Prison experiment appears to be just a ruse to rationalize the unbearable atrocities inflicted on the innocent muslims unjustly held at secret prisons by agents of the faceless, and equally heartless, imperialists. It's a good pretext to exonerate all but the on-duty staff from charges of torture and extracting false confessions. And simultaneously claiming that those thuggish officers are actually normal, sensible humans affected by the prison environment.
     
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