mufti nizamuddin's Fatwa on Obaidullah Azmi

What's the 'issue' with Mufti Nizamuddin al-Misbahi?

 

Double check and do your own due diligence but to the best of my knowledge, Mufti Nizamuddin has denounced Obaidullah Azmi for speaking nonsense against Ameer Mu3awiyah radi Allahu 3anhu. (If at all any clarification is sought on his views on OBK)

 

Ashrafiya Management Hits A New Low, expels a Mufti and his family from campus lodgings because he doesn't lick ubaidullah's boots.

inna lil lahi wa inna ilayhi raji'oon

https://clyp.it/fxursvex

 

you don't want to leave

 

this post is from 2014 after we migrated to the new forum:
http://sunniport.com/index.php?threads/new-sunniport.11716/#post-46802

post #14 on that thread.

 

this is your assumption that anything you do on public forums is in your control. actually, the first thing you should do when you register is look for the deletion policy and stay out if there is nothing mentioned.

here are a few relevant reasons which is already explained by others. i knew all these reasons, simply because we are running a forum for more than ten years and have been using forums for much longer. so i googled if someone has already taken time to explain why it breaks the forum. i will just link the relevant articles below:

http://www.politicsforum.org/documents/faq/account_deletion.php

http://www.managingcommunities.com/2013/04/29/can-you-delete-all-of-my-posts-from-your-forums/

this is wordpress:
https://wordpress.org/support/topic/how-do-i-change-my-forum-username-or-delete-my-account

this is openoffice:
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8279
notice, that they will not touch your posts - though they may allow you to delete your profile (i.e., personal info - which we do not collect or force you to reveal anyway).

this is stackexchange:
http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5999/how-can-i-delete-my-account

 

see, you are now changing your request. first you wanted complete deletion - now you just want the personal conversation you decided to make public. instead of this, if you simply sent a note to the moderators saying that you did not exercise good judgement and made a private conversation public, we could have helped. but instead you want us to suspend our forum for your lack of judgement.

that, you should aske before posting private conversations on a public forums in the future.

that i can edit as some ulama might be dragged in this needlessly. the rest remains.

 

have you people no Aql?
The things I mentioned are private and only to me. the reason for deletion is simple, these private matters which I heard Arshad ul Qadri I don't want it online on this "forum". If you know me or not has nothing to do with it.

You did not mentioned anywhere that deletion was an option. only to claim afterwards that it is not possible. This is not according to our ethics. When a Muslim ask another Muslim he does not want a part in it anymore, he should accept his request. putting Shart afterwards is deceiving and not according to our ethics.

Again what I heard in person from the professors are personal to me and I don't want their names here on this forum. nor do I want any link to you people anymore.

For the admins here such as noori. Your hypothesis is exactly why I don't want anything to do with you kind of people.

 

nobody knows who you are in real life, therefore why do you worry? also, demanding from others that they forget what you have said to them is not part of your privacy, rather it belongs to others. memories of your behaviours, favours, criticism is part of thier private or public life, how can you demand from others to forget their experiences with you?

I can bet that even if you leave this id, you will come back with a new one because you don't want to leave.

 

sub'HanAllah. will you sue us now?

khayr, you haven't understood the law (not privacy 'rules') properly. it is related to personal information, which we neither collect, nor solicit private information and we usually remove their personal details when someone complains. we even encourage people to use pseudonyms (and we don't know as of now, whether this is your REAL name or just a handle...)

http://ec.europa.eu/justice/data-protection/document/review2012/factsheets/2_en.pdf
http://ec.europa.eu/justice/data-protection/document/review2012/factsheets/6_en.pdf
http://ec.europa.eu/justice/data-protection/files/factsheets/factsheet_rtbf_mythbusting_en.pdf [be kind enough to read myth 2]

more docs: http://ec.europa.eu/justice/data-protection/document/index_en.htm

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however, this does not relate to your opinions and comments that you post on public forums. as if people are free to litter and demand others to clean up after them. imagine a talkative person who posts comments on every news-site and forum and one fine day decides to remove himself from the internet and demands every website to wash off his comments.

do you think it is practical?

REMEMBER: we don't ask you for your private information. we don't display your private information (except that which you choose to do it yourself). we honour requests to remove private information.

 

This is against privacy rules you know that right?

Case google and privacy
The case underlines the battle between advocates of free expression and supporters of privacy rights, who say people should have the "right to be forgotten" meaning that they should be able to remove their digital traces from the Internet.

please delete it for me brother.

 

i am sorry brother but we cannot delete your profile and your posts without breaking hte system.

you have to understand that this is a discussion forum and there are replies to your posts etc. if we delete your posts and profile, it appears that people are talking to themselves. i have now added a term in the rules at the time of registration that we cannot delete your profile or posts and if you don't accept, please do not register.

 

I dont understand. I looked everywhere. Where is the option to delete my profile? I even had a question added for this, but it seems you people are purposely not helping deleting my profile.

Could you people erase my profile or answer my question about deletion, or just tell me here where and how I can delete my profile. slm

 

you don't want to leave actually. Even facebook requires that you don't sign in with your id,i guess for 90 days.

 

I Request this for the third time, admin please erase my profile.

 

janab why do you think thus? not a single admin/moderator agrees with or condones ss. this should be clear to anyone involved in this and related threads.

if you say so because ss has not been banned yet, it's still unjust. The mods here have a policy. They do not ban people unless a ceratin line has been crossed. This line may differ with individuals and the issues they are heckling the forum members about. But this leeway and tolerance shown is not because they agree with what is being said by the person. It's only to let the person reveal himself completely before he is shown the door.

Banning is not a perfect solution either. You may not know that many people who have been banned earlier have come back with new usernames (nawazuddin for instance). This gives them a sort of fresh start because people don't realize that the particular poster has said all those ugly things which he could not justify and was banned on account of them. These people return, play it safe for a while and gain people's trust, then once again start the arguments from the beginning, as if all those have never been answered before. Would you want ss to acquit himself of the baggage he has gathered around himself and return under a new username, this time probably posing as an ashrafi or an attari or even a ridawi and start the same arguments over again? This also gives the false impression that more than one member shares the same opinion and therefore it must have some weight. Would you like this? Do you want to give ss a chance to done a new face and re-start the cycle?

I know ss has been trying his best to cause offence. This is called "trolling" in cyber jargon. Usually, different trolls have different amounts of time and varying levels of shame. Some don't come back after getting kicked out once. Some take a few defenestrations to make them realize that they won't be able to fool people anymore. Some are completely shameless and have any number of hours to waste. These simply keep returning under different pseudonyms.

This is the internet. A public platform where everyone gets a chance to speak his mind, no matter how stupid or foolish he may be. Have you not seen youtube and facebook comments? Did you not see the madman called 'dawaman'?

With freedom comes great responsibility. For some people, it means they can be as irresponsible as their time and energy allows them to. The majority of the world is against truth and justice. Do you not hear lies and half-truths being bandied about as gospel truth, by numberless people, foolish and cunning both, every single day? Can we shut up every obstinate imbecile and scheming jackal who propagates untruths?

In a small way, this forum is just a microcosm of the real world out there. As of now we do not have a solution to this problem.

The mature way to deal with this is to ignore the offenders and take things in one's stride.

Hope you will revise your opinions about the forum members and moderators.

wa's salaam

 

everything of me will be deleted by this. Not trace left on this forum. I dont want anything to do with it.

I request a deletion of my profile. Save the files I shared. slm

 

Thank you. why do you worry about the account, just don't come back here again. thank you again.