Paris Attack

this murtad speaks like his teacher murtad tahir.

mind you, as per tahir jhangvi, everybody except muslims are allowed to insult the holy prophet. just see his interview with danish TV.

the devil tahir jhangvi is worse than thanvi, gangohi, ambethvi, qadiyani and nanotvi combined.

 

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Sulla Kulli H Aslam responds to bbc -

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=344621649077819

He says muslims dont have to be apologetics

 

Ma Sha Allah

 

What Abu Hasan is saying is exactly what I was trying to convey.

 

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-Muslims/articleshow/17725685.cms?referral=PM

 

Umar Minhaji:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10205941800250924

 

i don't agree. as i have said before, using an epithet within a statement to convey feelings is different than doling out gratuitous insults.

 

False flag in Paris:

 

Point taken brother AQ. Its just that there are actual brothers who have our position and they have pointed this out to me. They agree with our views but not the attitude.

But I agree with you that those who have already made their mind will not change their mind even if we used sweet language. They cannot and will not be able to ever counter the points.

That was the case with Khadimu and others.

 

KS, i do not think that vilifying sellouts is irrelevant or childish. i believe it is necessary to vilify the sellouts and the mubtadi3is and people should know about these so called Sunnis. any fair observer can also see my reasons behind the invective. it is not just empty slogans.

most people on here have no problems with such comments being passed against wahabis. when they are passed against so-called Sunnis, it suddenly becomes childish and irrelevant or distracting.

why are we only 'aggravated' against wahabis and deobandis but not the likes of yaqoubi or jifry or hanson?!

why do people only bash tahir but not jifry? is it because tahir is just a desi? (granted, he's also neurotic)

it's about time we publicly lambast these sulah kullis who are more or less like tahir. i'm not stupid (at least i hope so). i too can post in language like "yaqoubi reminds me of the sharief of Makkah" but its better to spell it out completely. the sharief was a sellout and so is yaqoubi and others like him.

i believe there is a very big need for comments like this!

furthermore, i find your picking my comments out as childish, is childish in itself, as they are only a teeny tiny bit different from your language like:

you say he reminds you of a traitor and sell out.

i say his actions make him a traitor and a sellout, and therefore make him ugly and worthless.

if we don't vilify this new brand of christian and west admiring "Sunnis" then fitnah will only spread more. this is my contention. you probably believe that giving them a minor escape passage through somewhat negligibly controlled rhetoric will minimize the fitnah and hence your angst at my comments. so i take it very humbly and in good brotherly spirit, but it doesn't mean i accept your reasoning.

as for the forum's name, no one has a good name with anyone other than their friends, people who think like them. everyone has a bad name with the opposing camp. you probably think it will drive away the innocent, neutral bystanders. i believe if someone is truly fair and neutral, he will see the truth. if someone's eyes are star studded, nothing will ever cure his illness.

worrying about getting a 'bad name' with people is what probably drives the comments from "Muslim" scholars who are disturbed at the death of "innocent" people!

hope that answers your concerns if i do it deliberately to hurt the forum's name or out of my own bad habits (i have plenty, but vilifying and insulting sellouts and mubtadi3is isn't one of them!) he who respects ahlul bid3ah has aided in the destruction of Islam. if you want to help Islam, you have to destroy bid3ah and zandaqah and vilify the mubtadi3is and zanadiqah.

there isn't a bid3ah uglier than appeasing those (people as well as their institutions and ideologies) who praise and defiantly take sides with those who speak rubbish against the Prophet, sal Allahu 3alaihi wa sallam.

the day one of these traitors lashes out at their nakedness and hypocrisy, is the day i will re-evaluate my position and rhetoric on such traitors.

 

Irrelevant comments like those of AQ are what distract people from the message of any thread. And they are very childish.
Now either the brother does this on purpose so people think this forum and its members are just aggravated or he has just formed a bad habit of unnecessary cursing which gives this forum a bad name. Either be constructive or do not post at all. There is no need for comments like this:

 

in this:

see? no irreverence for that accursed satan - may his grave be filled with sewage and pus. may dogs and donkeys dirty his abominable hell-pit that you may call a grave. don't worry charb is getting roasted and getting hammered more than you can imagine.

no freedom there. bunch of hypocrites.

i am not surprised at them - only those who call themselves muslims and are 'outraged' at the death of filthy beings.

 

http://rt.com/news/222835-france-crackdown-hate-speech/

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read this
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/...ch-france-arrests-comedian-facebook-comments/

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-keep-israels-netanyahu-in-power-9979696.html

Paris attacks: US politician Jack Lindblad claims Charlie Hebdo killings were by 'US and Mossad' to keep Israel's Netanyahu in power

 

Pope has guts to express his opinion, but our western Muslim scholars want to be quiet.

Pope on Charlie Hebdo: There Are Limits to Freedom of Expression When Religion Is Insulted
http://abcnews.go.com/International...freedom-expression-religion-insulted-28240750

French authorities accused of double standards over hate speech crackdown
http://rt.com/news/222835-france-crackdown-hate-speech/

 

if we assume that:

1. the attack was not another inside/cia/mossad job like 9/11
2. that al-qaeda/ISIS are not west-propped pieces for a game of global chess, atleast not intentionally working for the imperialists

then:

I find it hard to believe that the attacks were from anyone affiliated to any takfiri ideology like al-qaeda et al. and if they were then they were not meant to 'avenge' the Prophet (peace be upon him) but for entirely different motives - perhaps punish the charlies for mocking the takfiri's attire or beards - and in the former case al-qaeda is simply taking credit for something it did not/would not do just to earn muslims' sympathy and/or present themselves as champions for the muslims' cause - and the media's believing them because everyone wants to believe it and it's a great motivator for the public to fall in line with imminent political/tactical schemes.

is it not possible that some ushshaq-e-rasul (peace be upon him), unable to take the insults any more, committed the act and went into hiding letting the liars trade credit and blames?

 

charlie hebdo, go to hell. (including all your employees, financiers and admirers).

 

Charlie Hebdo has published new cartoons of our prophet ( sal allahu alayhi wa aalihi wa sallam) . We need to see which call 'shuyookh', ' Muftis', 'Qadis' and 'Think Tank' will release their statements condemning this. No, we don't need what these shuyookh say in their private gathering. It is a time they must release a simple statement in press/public condemning and criticizing this act.


http://news.yahoo.com/top-muslim-body-french-cartoons-stir-hatred-211710993.html

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world...dition-hits-the-streets/article1-1306832.aspx