Who is Ahmad Dabbagh?

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  1. Brother Barry

    Brother Barry Veteran

    Can you please show me evidence of anywhere I have said he controls jinns or does black magic... I think you are getting mixed up about what iv said on here & what you've been reading on YaTaf.com . Give your head a little shake lol
  2. ahlus-sunnah

    ahlus-sunnah Veteran

    He speaks about Imam Ahmad Rida Khan, Rahimahullah

  3. trueislamicpath

    trueislamicpath New Member

    Thanks Barry. But with all due respect being a pro- Thanvi/Deobandi supporter and being "involved from head to toe in Sihr" and "a jinn master" as somebody on another website claimed are worlds apart. One is an aqeedah perspective and the other is fields apart. Deobandi perhaps but please- sahir? Where is the evidence for this. You can't shout out things like this if you haven't got the proof to back it up. Please email me with evidence that Shaykh Dabbagh is into these things you mentioned as if it is true I want to see the evidence.
  4. Brother Barry

    Brother Barry Veteran

    From my encounter with his mureeds the clear cut impression that was left is they are pro thanvi & pro deobandi... their courses can't be purifying the hearts that much if this is the state of his mureeds. Also I remember hearing that the chain of khilafah Dabbgahs has in tareeqa is broken somewhere up the line from him thus casting major doubts as well.
  5. trueislamicpath

    trueislamicpath New Member

    I have seen a similar criticism levelled at Shaykh Dabbagh on another website. But the problem is nobody brings any proof. I have come across Shaykh Dabbaghs mureeds a few times and they seem to be full of Akhlaq and the course they present seems very well designed and practical as a means of purifying oneself. In addition anybody I have met who seems to have associated with them seem to have nothing but good to say about the Shaykh including as I understand some well known ulama from other tariqas. Obviously to accuse real ulama of such things is a massive issue especially things as serious as sihr. Please if you have genuine information about such a thing then bring forth your proof. You can email me privately to avoid spreading unnecessary fitna as I would be genuinely interested to know.
  6. agent-x

    agent-x Well-Known Member

    I am talking about Mufti Fazl e Qayyum Subhani from Ummah Channel
  7. Brother Barry

    Brother Barry Veteran

    Interesting that as earlier on yesterday I met with a Shaykh, we had a lengthy discussion about Hamza, Dante, Sayyed Yaqoubi saab, Shaykh Asrar, JAK, Ninnowy and many other issues about the state of sunniyat these days.. He mentioned that many around these days are sullah kull and that upright scholars are ignored, he also mentioned that there's quite a few pretenders to the throne of being shaykhs.. I enquiried about Mufti Fazal subhani and the Shaykh said that man is not a Mufti he has just added it to his name, he said ask the ummahchannel scholars who will confirm this.
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  8. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    no, I'm sure he's referring to mufti fazl e qayyum sub'Hani.
  9. IslamIsTheTruth

    IslamIsTheTruth Well-Known Member

    I think he is talking about another mufti.. Quite confusing,
    As he addressed mr subhani Saab as Molvi Fazal e Qayyum unless he is someone else?
    But everyone a mufti nowadays.
    Happy days lol.
    @ Chisti Raza, dabbagh is a shaitaan.
    Bolton (uk) ulama know him inside out.
    They can fill you in.
    He is involved in sihr from head to toe. Dangerous geeza.
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  10. IslamIsTheTruth

    IslamIsTheTruth Well-Known Member

  11. Abu al-Qasim

    Abu al-Qasim Active Member

    A Deobandi kadhab masquerading as a Sunni, the signed statement is a lie by him to sucker in Sunnis. A while ago if you were to talk privately with him or ring him he would praise the 'akabir' of Deoband to you if questioned about them and say their takfir was a matter of 'ikhtilaf'. He probably would not do so now, he is most likely more careful nowadays. But a lot of his murids are out and out Sullah Kullis and some of them even self professed Deobandis.
  12. Brother Barry

    Brother Barry Veteran

    When you say Mufti Sahib are you referring to Mr Subhani of Ummah channel?
  13. agent-x

    agent-x Well-Known Member

    All of the above is correct.

    People that live close to him know him better and they've told me he's still dodgy. When I say people I don't mean you and I. I mean alim of the ahlus sunnah

    A few months ago Molvi Asim Hussain, Molvi Fazal e Qayyum Subhani and a few others were going to attend a retreat with him, I made the local alim aware, he immediately rang Mufti Saab and made him aware of his true colours Mufti Sahib cancelled, Molvi Asim was also spoken to not sure if it was directly by the Alim I had informed or via another person but he also cancelled.

    I just a few days ago got another poster of a retreat which Mufti Sahib is attending with him. I once again made the slim aware. The slim once again rang mufti sahib directly. Mufti Sahib said he will still be attending.

    Theres more to him than meets the eye. Stay away from him and if any one has contact with the brothers in SA please let them know too.
  14. Haqbahu

    Haqbahu Veteran

    I have seen a letter (which was supposedly signed by him) in which it states that he follows the same teachings as Ghala-e-Zaman Shah Sahib Kazmi and Alahazrat. And I also saw a video clip of him in which he refers (in a positive way) to Alahazrat and Fatawa Ridawiyyah.

    But I have also heard Shaykh Asrar speak against him in several lectures.
  15. Brother Barry

    Brother Barry Veteran

    Isn't he the Deobandi who claims his sunni now... don't know if he is or isn't but iv always not bothered with the dude...

    Had a encounter with his "Mureeds" once, I exposed some things from thanvis books to them that clearly showed what a perv thanvi was and also a disgusting demand thanvis grandad made in order to do a speech.

    Dabbgahs "Mureeds" didn't like this and started crying about it all lol... why am I exposing his sins etc... the problem for them was that there was no way out for them and no way to refute it since it was from his own pen about his own personal life... their heartache was epic lol

    If these guys were proper sunnis they wouldn't have reacted like that with bleeding hearts for thanvi, they really really badly wanted to defend him so much but just couldn't ... was truly fascinating to see these kinds of people snookered like that lol
  16. chisti-raza

    chisti-raza Veteran

    I am not in contact with them. What do you mean by

  17. agent-x

    agent-x Well-Known Member

    He's a sly person that we should stay clear of.

    Do you have contact with the sunni organisation?
  18. chisti-raza

    chisti-raza Veteran

    Who is Shaykh Ahmad Dabbagh? He is currently in South Africa and is being propagated by a Sunni organisation here who have scheduled tours for him.

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