Zaytuna

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  1. I've seen many ulema who have opened madaris in the USA

    Shaykh ghufran sidiqi
    Mufti ahmedul qadri

    Also, dawate islami and SDI have activities
     
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  3. 1. The term "children of God", whether used figuratively or literally, is still Kufr and this is agreed upon by Ahl-e-Sunnah wal Jama`ah. Some ignoramuses attempt to use the hadith "al-khalq `iyal Allah". Firstly, that hadith is munkar as per Hazrat`e Imam Bukhari (radhi Allahu `anhu) and secondly, the term `iyal in this context means fuqara (dependants) as per Al-Munawi, and thus, the attempt to justify such a blatantly obvious blunder with ta`wil which are invalid doesn't suffice.

    2) Please, brother NJ, before trying to defend anything, go look in Imam Ibn Hajar's Fath al-Bari upon this issue. Imam Ibn Hajar (and I believe Sayyidi Abu Hasan madda zillahul aali has translated it for us, may Allah reward him), quotes a riwayah from Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal's musnad and from another book by Ibn Ishaq that Sayyida Ai`sha narrates that the Prophet sal Allahu `alayhi wa salim said that "they can not hear better than you".

    Note that after this, Imam Ibn Hajar quotes Al-Isma`ili who states that this means that Sayyida Ai`sha recanted from that position. Noting that Sayyida Ai`sha was the only one who incorrectly differed and thus, when she recanted, the saHaba then agreed upon the belief that the DEAD COULD HEAR.
     
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  4. Brother, I think you're on thin ice here as all of these statements you've quoted can be interpreted figuratively except the first; and it is possible the Sahaba or the Salaf did differ.

    We should leave refutation to qualified ulama or, at most, transmit their opinions.

    So far I haven't heard a reputable Sunni scholar say Hamza Yusuf is of batil aqidah.
    Rather he has helped Sunniyat in the West more than anyone else as far as the under 30s are concerned.
     
  5. Bismillah hir Rahman al-rahim

    Nahmadahu wa nusali `ala Rasulihil kareem

    Ama ba`ad:

    As-Salamu `alaykum

    ab zaruri hogaya hai ke fasid aqa`id ke markaz, Jamia Zaytuna, ke radd kiya jaye {It has now become necessary to refute Jami`a Zaytuna--or Zaytuna Institute--which has been spreading false beliefs). Is faqir majbur hogaya hai aur us daur me reh raha hai jis me fasid aqa`id ko qubul kiya jata hai. InshAllah ta`ala, is jahil-jaysay fasid aq`aid ko bayan karne ke bad, unke hawala diya jayega aur phir unke radd kiya jayega [this servant has now become troubled and he is living in a time where false beliefs are accepted. InshAllah, after mentioned the false aqai`d of this jama`at, we will have the source from the words of the Zaytuna sect themselves along with a refutation]

    Fasid batil aqida 1 : There is a difference of opinion that the dead can hear
    Hawala : Ettiquetes of Disagreement, Track 5, 7 minutes, 20 seconds till 8 minutes and 2 seconds. In addition, the text is as follows:

    Fasid batil aqida: "Then we will be the children of God" *** (wa `iyadhbillah min al-shaytan al-rajim
    Hawala: http://www.halaltube.com/upholding-faith-serving-humanity-isna-2007-4


    Fasid batil aqida: "Death interrupts the appointed life span"
    Hawala: BBC Interview (has been removed from youtube)


    Wassalamu `alaykum
     
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