Irfan Shah Mash'hadi in the Tafzili/Rafizi camp

Discussion in 'Aqidah/Kalam' started by Sunni Jaag, Mar 6, 2021.

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  1. Waqar786

    Waqar786 Veteran

    In sha Allah this has a positive conclusion and helps to draw a line under the matter.

     
  2. Sunni Jaag

    Sunni Jaag Active Member

    I hope so but there was a reason why Shah Sahib didn't get on with them for so long. Nowadays Shah Sahib doesn't even try to correct them at least openly whereas previously he would immediately during Mehfil. As we can see most Sunni have boycotted him.
     
  3. Waqar786

    Waqar786 Veteran

    I get that but if Shah Sahib can sort out his issue with Jalali Sahib, I don't think those 'friends' will invite him to their gatherings. Who knows if Shah Sahib can come back to the fold, he might be be able to drag some of those 'friends' back on board too.
     
  4. Sunni Jaag

    Sunni Jaag Active Member

    Dr Jalali issue aside. What about the exposure of Sunni Awaam to Shah Sahibs new found friends?

    In the Mehfils Shah Sahib attends or organises there is frequently something against the Sunni Aqaid.
     
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  5. Waqar786

    Waqar786 Veteran

    JazakAllah for summarising. I thought Shah sahib might look to bring an end to the issue and make some sort of uturn. However, they are continuing their same claims so those around them and the sunni public should demand that they debate Jalali sahib
    This has gone on long enough. Shah Sahib mentioned in the same speech that it is a different ball game when you are face to face instead of uploading clips. Shah Sahib and Jalali sahib need to meet and debate the issue. That will make everything clear. If they don't then sunni public should not allow these sort of talks to continue.
     
  6. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    Still maintaining that doing the nisbat of khata to Hazrat Fatima (ra) is Gustakhi. Then using derogatory language against those who do not consider it gustakhi (he mentioned something about 'Poo' but I don't remember his exact words now and didn't want to go through the whole speech to find it). Then openly stating that the whole system of our Nabi Swallallahu Alaihi Wasallam is resting on Mawla Ali's (ra) shoulders alone. The latter is against sunni aqaid as the Sahaba (ra) together shared the responsibility, it was not Maula Ali's alone.

    I only listened to bits in between as I didn't want to waste my time.
     
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  7. Waqar786

    Waqar786 Veteran

    Brother, which of Shah Sahib's points did you find that were against Sunni aqaid. I listened to the latter part of his speech and I thought it was just like his previous speech. Made interpretations linked to Fadhail and used them to indict Jalali Sahib instead of actually explaining why Khata Ijtihadi is a gustakhi
     
  8. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    Alhamdulillah more people are speaking out. I think it's about time ulema openly state that Irfan Shah has gone astray, he is no longer sunni. I believe it is their responsibility to do so and save the public from this man.

    I had posted the full video that only consisted of Irfan Shah's bayan, which again was against sunni aqaid. However I wasn't aware that all this "Ali da pehla number" happened in the same mehfil, which of course was full of rafizis.

    May Allah protect the sunni masses from Irfan Shah and all his sidekicks!
     
  9. Sunni Jaag

    Sunni Jaag Active Member

  10. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    I didn't get that video, seems to be another voice added to the one of Irfan Shah's to be fair to him, more like a doctored video.

    The actual full video is

    But again in this video we can see the filth coming out of Irfan Shah's mouth where he is once again using foul language for the Ahle Sunnat (opposing 'scholars'). I watched bits here and there as I did not want to waste over 2 hours listening to this filthy person!
     
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  11. Sunni Jaag

    Sunni Jaag Active Member

  12. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    whatever, but there no noor on his face anymore.
     
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  13. Abdullah Ahmed

    Abdullah Ahmed Well-Known Member

    lol
     
  14. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    Well there is nobody more in his "inner circle" than the good old Nabeel. Why does he then always defend Irfan Shah's antics as if they are the absolute truth! Then we have Munawwar Shah Bukhari, another member of his inner circle, who even today defends him and only addresses him as "Hujjatul Islam"!

    Irfan Shah has enough 'sanity' to give speeches in public at a healthy rate, around 2 or 3 each week! Not to mention his continued ability to learn galiyan and gaane!
     
  15. Abdullah Ahmed

    Abdullah Ahmed Well-Known Member

    im not sure if this is true or not, but i heard from someone who is close to those in Irfan Shah sahib's inner circle, that he hasnt been himself for a while now, and apparently this started when he began taking some type of medication (perhaps after his recent weight-loss surgery? or maybe some type of anti-anxiety/anti-depression medication?)
    Wallahu Alam
     
  16. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    Irfan Shah continuing to stoop as low as he can....

     
  17. Sunni Jaag

    Sunni Jaag Active Member

    There were other indirect rejections like the one who collected money using chaar yaar name, the one who praises Mehboob Hazarvi's father, listens to qawali instead of praying Salah and has an issue with siyasat of Hazrat Amir Muawiyya etc.


    Syed Muzaffar Hussain Shah Qadri Sahib take of the shackles.
     
  18. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    He did indirectly mention Munawwar Jamaati with his "bucket" hat. But it's about time Irfan Mashadi gets named openly by the ulema, including the UK ulema.
     
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  19. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    I listened/skip through 20 minutes of speech, but did not hear any mention of irfan mashadi, though he talked about ayat e tathir and included sayyidutana aumm al mu'mineen raDiyaAllahu a'nha which is an indirect rejection of him.
     
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  20. Sunni Jaag

    Sunni Jaag Active Member



    Syed Muzaffar Hussain Shah Qadri Sahib take of the shackles.
     

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