Irfan Shah Mash'hadi in the Tafzili/Rafizi camp

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  1. Ghulam Ali

    Ghulam Ali Active Member

    "Do not limit yourself to one Sunni Aalim (scholar) or one Sufi group."

    -Shaykh Asrar Rashid al-Hanafi al-Ash'ari al-Qadri (Hafida'ullah)

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    cult mentality in full flow.

    any person who Looks at all the evidence with fairness will not fail to see what has happened here. As difficult as it is to believe the sher has jumped ship and he is now batting for the other side.

    There is no blind following in aqida, except of RasulAllah alaihisalam, sahaba kiram Radi-Allahu anhum or Ijma.

    Yet murids, half baked maulanas and ‘khalifas’ will still make all sorts of excuses but anyone who is switched on will see straight through them.

    so the position of Sunnio ka shahenshah has been vacated
     
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  2. Ghulam Ali

    Ghulam Ali Active Member

    Deliberate distortion with intent to mislead. This has been clarified several times. But let alone nabeel it is as though Pir Irfan Shah is also under instruction

     
  3. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    blind following, he is nabeel only for his body, but not for his opinions.
     
  4. Waqar786

    Waqar786 Veteran

    With re. Pir Naseer, it's probably best to stay silent because at that time Shah Sahib had been strong in terms of Aqida. However, when it comes to his previous interlocutor's father, then that is just pulling the wool over people's eyes. If the son was spouting the same nonsense after his father's death, then in all likelihood his father died on the same manhaj.
    For Shah Sahib to come full circle, he needs to clarify fully. His dutiful mureed Sh Nabeel is still saying that the nara of Siyasaat e Amir Muawiyya can only be in opposition to Syeduna Ali and claims that it is the supporters of this nara are essentially lacking intellect.
     
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  5. Sunni Jaag

    Sunni Jaag Active Member

    Unfortunately some have died on their corrupt beliefs, ahh we have to take Iran Shah's word. I guess they have done ruju after they died! :p
     
  6. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    Exactly, every tafzili repents in "secret" to Irfan Shah, just like in the case of Pir Naseeruddin Naseer. This then allows the tafzilis to don the sunni attire and further mislead the Sunnis.

    Brother Abu Hasan has correctly stated the obvious in the fadak and khata thread. Irfan Shah is the marja'a for the tafzilis!
     
  7. Waqar786

    Waqar786 Veteran

    Shah Sahib claims that they have all repented from their previous stances. Simple just hold an Amir Muawiyya conference and invite all of these Tafdhlis to speak on topics that they used to refute. We will see how many of them will turn up.
     
  8. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    This is the more complete video... You can see how openly they are against "Siyasat e Muawiyah Zindabad" nara used under "any" condition. And look at how Irfan Shah now acknowledges the tafzilis fully with his hand on his heart that they eventually came together after previously having had their differences!

    I see another PAQ in the making....

     
  9. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    I was reading re the lies in trump's yesterday's speech and funnily, the first name that rung up in my mind was Irfan shah... tafzilion ka donald trump!
     
  10. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    So Irfan Shah hasn't yet said anything about Macron in any of his numerous recent conferences. Where has his gali galoch gone? The below video does seem to sum him up correctly. He was very courteous towards rafizis when they insulted Hazrat Abu Bakr Siddique (ra), lips are sealed when it comes to Macron and France, but an eruption of galiyan comes against Sunnis!

     
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  11. Sunni Jaag

    Sunni Jaag Active Member



    Only 30 seconds clip, a disgusting u-turn.
     
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  12. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    I think you missed the video from the other day where Irfan Shah explicitly mentioned that he doesn't need to prove anything. Just take his word for it, as nothing but the absolute truth comes out of his mouth!
     
  13. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    It must be in his mindset that the one with the grandest of pagdis is the most elevated in rank! Therefore he had to come up with a pagdi different and bigger than everyone else's. After all whatever is happening is all apparently under his supervision.
     
  14. Waqar786

    Waqar786 Veteran

    I think because of Shah Sahib's history, they've got off lightly for their continuous attack on Sunni scholars. They've been the perfect frontman for the Tafdhlis, who would have made little impact on their own.
     
  15. Waqar786

    Waqar786 Veteran


    They won't be able to prove it because Mufti Fazal Chisti completely destroyed that assertion. However, my issue why was it left to Mufti Fazal Chisti, this was the prefect opportunity for Syed Muzaffar, Mufti Muneeb and others to refute and distance themselves from this sideshow.

    Shah Sahib just said it to protect his new friends because the two people who have openly refuted that nara are Riaz Shah and Mehboob Hazarvi... both who on record have insulted Amir Muawiyya.
    The burden on proof falls on them that their refutation of the nara is justified because as per Ala Hazrat's statement, the meaning of ambiguous statements depends on who is saying it. With their track record we have to assume their objection is borne out of hate for Amir Muawiyya.
     
  16. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    I'm not being funny but Munawwar jamatis greek orthodox church imama really infuriates me.
     
  17. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    I challenge all of them to prove that when Sunnis raised the slogan of Siyasat e Muawiyah, their intention was to oppose the khilafah of Mawla Ali رضي الله عنه.
     
  18. Waqar786

    Waqar786 Veteran

    This is the issue that Syed Muzaffar Hussain Shah should tackle because he endorsed it.
    Shah Sahib has flicked the switch and erased his 20 years of work against the Tafdhlis. Until, these individuals do a conference on Amir Muawiyya, why should we believe they have changed their views. If they have not, then Shah Sahib should apologise to the Sunni public for hoodwinking them for 20 years.
     
  19. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    After 4 mins, he talks about the slogan, 'siyasat e Muawiyah'.

    Someone tell these jahils, PLEASE! The slogan isn't said as opposed to Mawla Ali. It is about the rule of Amir Muawiyah after Imam Hasan abdicated in 41AH.
     
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  20. Sunni Jaag

    Sunni Jaag Active Member



    Mohiuddin Mehboob, 99 Munazra guy claiming he has always been on the right path in front of Irfan Shah. Pathetic.
     

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