Mufakkir e Rawafid of Walthamstow

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  1. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    Too difficult to do formatting on iPad, specially arabic.
  2. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    it is against tawhid. Many people also say that RasulAllah is praised more than Allah azza wa jall because Allah subhanu wa ta'ala Himself praises rasulAllah alaihi afDalus salaat wat-tasleem. But, this argument is absurd, because Allah praises His beloved as a creation, and He praises himself being the creator.

    لَيْسَ كَمِثْلِهِ شَيْءٌ ۖ وَهُوَ السَّمِيعُ الْبَصِيرُ

    So there is no one who can praise Him like (and more than) He praises Himself. No praise of Him by His creation can be equal to what He has said (says) about Himself only in a single aayah of His pre-eternal kalam (Quran); for example

    الحمد لله رب العالمين

    RasulAllah alaihi afDalus salaat wat-tasleem has said

    عَنْ عَائِشَةَ قَالَتْ: فَقَدْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهم عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ لَيْلَةً مِنَ الْفِرَاشِ فَالْتَمَسْتُهُ فَوَقَعَتْ يَدِي عَلَى بَطْنِ قَدَمَيْهِ وَهُوَ فِي الْمَسْجِدِ وَهُمَا مَنْصُوبَتَانِ وَهُوَ يَقُولُ: اللَّهُمَّ أَعُوذُ بِرِضَاكَ مِنْ سَخَطِكَ وَبِمُعَافَاتِكَ مِنْ عُقُوبَتِكَ وَأَعُوذُ بِكَ مِنْكَ لَا أُحْصِي ثَنَاءً عَلَيْكَ أَنْتَ كَمَا أَثْنَيْتَ عَلَى نفسك
    [صحيح مسلم ]
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  3. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    I don't like what paqs says after 15 minutes that the dhikr of Allah can end but dhikr of RasulAllah ﷺ can't.

    Am I being unfair?
  4. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    Muzammil Jamaati (previous Imam at Victoria Park mosque) - a protege of PAQs has uttered absolute insolence against the noble Sahabi Hazrat Syeduna Ameer Muawiyyah, by claiming that his son Yazeed was not born from matrimony.

    He has further made fun of Muftis and also accused the noble Sahabi Hazrat Syeduna Ameer Muawiyyah, of being VERY WRONG (in his stance with Syeduna Ali) (Allah be pleased with both the companions).

    only Syed Mohammed Irfaani Jeelani was brave enough to challenge him, refute him and the walk out of the gathering.

    PAQs and his party kept on listening without uttering a word or objecting. It seems this occurred just this week, in Bolton, UK.
    You can listen to Syed Mohammed Irfaani Jeelani's clip HERE.
  5. Ridawi78692

    Ridawi78692 Hanafi Maturidi Qadri

    Pir ateeq ur rehman is from my village in pakistan, very happy to see he's finally endorsed the view that taq is a deviant!
  6. Zulfiqar Haideri

    Zulfiqar Haideri New Member

    Excellent. Please advise what cause of action should be taken against Hafiz Inayat if he is found on the same stage again?
  7. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Haji's older brother refutes Hamid at 41 minutes about Padri

    Do not think Mawlana Sardar Ahmad Qadri (ra)would have been happy with either Ch Haji nor Ch Hamid for hanging out with Mufakkir and Padri.
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  8. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Choudry Hamid Raza having a go at Irfan Shah but sat with Mufakkir e Rawafid and he knows he is a deviant who insults Sahaba amongst them Mawla Ali (RadiAllahu anhu)

    Hamid is also in bed with the Padri. He knows all to well about the deviancies of Padri

    Haji was at launch of

    but looks like he went against Mufakkir as Pir Mahroof threw him a party with Mufti Azam Brittania and others present

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  9. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

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  10. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran


    1. his academic career started in the Jamia Masjid

    2. he is from gujarkhan so possibly in potwari or delhi urdu. As for dadyal I think you have him confused for nawaz, kattar and aqdas who are from there

    3. is the million dollar question
  11. kattarsunni

    kattarsunni Veteran

    It was clarified at the Ala Hazrat conference in front of Hafiz Inayat that it is impermissible to share stages with people of innovation. This was in public.

    The same was done in front of Qamar alZaman Azmi. Aqdas was there and he can vouch for that.
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  12. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    i have a few questions:

    1. what does your mention of jamia masjid delhi have to do with mufakkir's phd from oxford?

    2. did he do his phd from oxford in Urdu/Punjabi/Pothwari/Dadyalwi-medium rather than english? i ask because he asks the reporter the meaning of "phobia". i did't know oxford had multiple languages of instruction and multiple languages in which they accept dissertations and theses.

    3. can you please point to the link of his thesis/dissertation. if the whole document isn't available, can we get to read just the abstract? can we at least know the title?
  13. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Ph.D from Oxford it all started in the Jamia Masjid in Delhi
  14. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

  15. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Imam Ali recites Iman e Mufassal at 5 minutes on the request of bayjee
  16. Zulfiqar Haideri

    Zulfiqar Haideri New Member

    Does Ijaz Shami endorse his fathers actions?
  17. Muhammad Ali

    Muhammad Ali Veteran

    It's not the first time he attended their conference he was also present at the sunni conference organised by Pir Abdul Qadir Sahib.

    Iman Ijaz Shaami should know more and Shaykh Asrar since rencently they both organised a conference together in Sultan Bahu Trust.
  18. Zulfiqar Haideri

    Zulfiqar Haideri New Member

    Does Hafiz Inayat have Rawafid leanings???

    I heard he was vocally against the H4Y Mehfils!
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  19. Muhammad Ali

    Muhammad Ali Veteran

    Imam Ijaz Shaami's Dad also attended the conference Hafiz Inayat.
  20. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Empty rhetoric by Neefa from the Sabzi Mandi
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