Mufakkir e Rawafid of Walthamstow

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  1. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    i hadn't watched the older video where he makes a claim: "we will support him until death".

    the most disgusting aspect of all this soap opera is that neither PAQ nor his erstwhile buddies have the ghayrah to speak out against padri's anti-islamic activities. PAQ admits in the second video that he is a closet shiah - because, even if tahir may commit kufriyat or support those who disrespect the Prophet sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam, PAQ is willing to forget all that (as if it is his right) and embrace a zindiq if he insults sayyiduna mu`awiyah (like tahir did in one of his videos) and praises mawla ali similar to the rawafid (by insinuating against the elder khulafa).

    zahid shah also said that somewhere that tahir jhangvi's support of the idea that abu talib is a muslim made him forego everything else and embrace him.

    like many people have been saying - they are all shiah.

    PAQ has a huge list of claims, just short of bringing islam to the UK, and for that he demands so much and so high respect and allegiance and reverence. but he has no qualms in attacking the greatest among sunni ulama.

    who is the real namak-haram?

    PAQ was known to be a jahil (as in lack of knowledge) but his jahalat (as in lack of morals and character) is laid bare when he attacks and exposes his relatives, friends and students - erstwhile, though they may be.

    add to this abdul qadir thinks he is the only sayyid left on this earth; and look at the shameless manner of his speech - he trashes even imam hasan basri, after mentioning that he was the shaykh of data sahib and ghaws e azam (who are both sayyids).

    those who hurt awliya will be humiliated.

    ab drama dikhayega kya scene
    parda uThne ki muntazar hai nigah
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  2. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    so zahid shah and baig jumped ship and joined padri?
  3. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    He basically got annoyed with Qaid e Inqilab in e17 and Sayyid Zahid Shah speaking there with his old Khalifah and lashed out.

    He is living in a dream world thinking the public is with him and he is the main man In the UK. Its a bit like his imaginative Ph.Ds and him studying at Oxford then Birmingham

    Like Jalali said he is Phira houwa damak
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  4. Brother Barry

    Brother Barry Veteran

    In that second video right at the end he looks a bit uncomfortable when he only gets one Narra and padri gets all the

    His more or less saying please invite me to join you in Pakistan padri.. I'll even pay for my own ticket lol
  5. kattarsunni

    kattarsunni Veteran

    A sayyid needs to respect a fellow sayyid in the same way a non sayyid should. The reason being that the respect in reality is for the Prophet alayhisalam. Some sayyid think they are exempt from this.

    Absolutely repulsive and disgusting how Sayyid Abdul Qadir describes Sayyid Zahid Shah. Comparing him to donkeys Tec

    This is not surprising from someone who denigrates companions and imams.
  6. Brother Barry

    Brother Barry Veteran

    I admit his totally kookoo:confused:

    but he genuinely made me laugh over the padri naamaz comments he made lol:D
  7. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    aq you are right he is referring to Sayyidina Imam Hussain (RadiAllahu anhu)

    he is not on about feeding padri or teaching him for 55 years. He is on about Allama Baig
  8. Haqbahu

    Haqbahu Veteran

    His critique of tahir is very valid.
    Although it is not credible coming from him now.
  9. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    in the next clip, he is rambling. all stories. and mixes up everything.
  10. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    nothing PAQS says is reliable. even in the very texts he cites as reference.
  11. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    interestingly, on the hashiyah of sharh ilyas the nikah of sayyidah umm kulthum with sayyiduna umar is mentioned:

    so the quraysh are equals (kufw/akfa'a) for each other regardless of superiority amongst themselves;

    and according to (imam) muhammad except in the case of well-known ancestry such as the families of the khilafah* and he probably said that to highlight the prominence of khilafah and to stem any mischief (that may arise due to this).

    and this is proven by the fact that ali gave his daughter umm kulthum bint faTimah in marriage to umar ibn al-khaTTab and she was far younger (to him); umar was an adawi and she was a hashimiyyah - but both are united in being quraysh.

    similarly, arabs are equals to each other; though not all arabs are equals to quraysh. and the non-arabs (mawali) are not equals to arabs.

    the basis for all this is the saying of RasulAllah SallAllahu alayhi wa sallam that: "quraysh (clans) are equals to each other


    know, that this specific concept of kufw is only for marriage and that too, for the girl. that is a girl (or her kin) can demand that she be married only to someone her equal. this is because arabs were proud of their ancestry and felt piqued at giving in marriage to someone beneath their status.
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  12. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    sharH ilyas is a commentary on wiqayah; by shaykh maHmud ibn ilyas al-rumi, who completed it in 851 AH (kashf al-zunun).

    in the nikah of arabs, equality of ancestry is deemed a factor. the quraysh - that is, the children of naDr ibn kinanah - they are equals to each other, even if they are hashimis. and (imam) muhammad said: unless it is a well-known family like the families of the khalifas*; and other arabs are not equals to quraysh - however, all arabs are equals to each other...
    [sharh ilyas, printed in 1289 AH. ]

    *the four well-known khalifahs; and thus families are well-known: the siddiqis, the faruqis, the uthmanis; and the alawis: are hanafis and sayyids (the banu faTimah).



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  13. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    he is a mental case but that part he said it in regards to Sayyidina Imam Hussain radi Allahu 3anhu, that he radi Allahu 3anhu said/implied such.


    i'm confused. is he saying that he funded and took care of and taught padri for 55 years?
    who are all these people that he is saying became mufakkir and mufti azam baritania, etc. overnight - padri? when did padri ever live in uk?


    so what are all of his cult fanboys on yanobody gonna do now? make an about face and start trashing padri just coz the cult-master trashed him?
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  14. Haqbahu

    Haqbahu Veteran

    Ironic that he is also attacking qaid-e-inqilab now.
  15. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Mufakkir has gone mental!

    He goes if you think the most ajeeb waqia is the ashab e kahf one from the Qur'an al Karim then you are wrong as mine is more ajeeb!

    He then attacks a Sayyid for his looks!
  16. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    so according to him, the son of umar - say, sayyiduna abdAllah ibn umar raDiyallahu anhu - is not equal to mohammed ibn abu bakr raDiyallahu anhu (who is a junior saHabi). we will discuss that later.

    but shah sahib has destroyed his own honour by saying all that he did in his frustration.
    but abdul qadir shah has crossed limits by attacking and insulting mawla ali raDiyallahu anhu. astaghfirullah. PAQS has lost his mind.
    other than attacking sayyidi muHammad ibn Hanafiyyah and his mother. (who would be the step-mother of a sayyid).


    he should read the tafsir of this aayat:

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  17. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Astagfirullah the idiot from Walthamstow is comparing his friend to Sayyidina Muhammad ibn al-Hanafiyyah (RadiAllahu anhu)

    What a idiot this old Gujarkhani is!
  18. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Mufakkir e17 was begging to join Qaid e Inqilab and join him a few months ago
  19. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Calling his old friends marassi and asking maafi from Allah and saying Qaid e Inqilab has ran off with his tail between his legs and mocking Qaid e Inqilabs last ghusl a few months ago

    Mufakkir e Islam says he has been on Haqq all his life and breaking a covenant of bayah is against the Shariah... it is against the Law ...

    Mufakkir e Islam is very very angry and getting very personal and cussing people's looks!!!!!

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