Yasir Qadhi and Asrar Rashid - Aqida

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  1. Khanah

    Khanah Veteran

    Forget whether he is outside of sunni Islam- I consider him to be outside of Islam, full stop. Here he is denying that belief in eternal hellfire is part of the necessities of the religion, which every 5 year old can even tell you:

    https://sunniport.com/index.php?threads/ibn-taymiyyah-on-hellfire.15211/

    Here he claims the one who believes the sunnah has not been preserved is not a kaafir:

    https://sunniport.com/index.php?threads/yq-on-hadith-rejectors.15394/

    Whereas belief that the sunnah hasn't been preserved is also a rejection of the necessary elements of the religion.

    I'm sure shaykh asrar doesn't sit on YouTube watching YQ lectures all day so he would be unaware of this and probably believes YQ is a taymiyyan type of wahabbi which has become more popular these days (those who reject ibn Abdul Wahhab but have the aqeedah of ibn taymiyyah overall and may even follow a madhab, such as Muhammad Hijab who is a hanbali muqallid or bro hajji who claims to be a hanafi muqallid).

    Whether shaykh asrar should have joined this podcast, I don't know, but he clearly called out albani, ibn uthaymeen, and the likes and didn't accept the sulh kullism proposed by YQ but it's also true that he didn't call out YQ specifically apart from the general 'we have differences which we can talk about in the future'.
     
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  2. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    are you a follower/student/mureed of sh. asrar?
     
  3. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    yasir qadhi is a liberal stooge. at some point in the past he was an unabashed wahabi. he slowly migrated to liberalist viewpoints - based on the few clips i have seen of late - and even shamelessly tried to sow doubts about the qur'an. he does not speak about mawlid doesn't mean he deems it permissible. a lot of these talk show hosts do not advertise their personal beliefs for fear of alienating those with opposing views.

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    he was never IN the ahl al-sunnah. he was a vocal wahabi - as he has admitted himself. so if the state has changed, he must come clean about it. he has to say that i reject every wahabi/salafi position in the past and i adhere to the sunni positions of say imam abdul aziz dihlawi, imam ahmad sirhindi and imam abdul haqq dihlawi. if he follows a madh'hab, he must state whether he is a hanafi or shafiyi.

    why should *I* compromise on my beliefs on what *I* consider right and the truth just to make someone happy? who cares about yasir qadhi?

    if someone asks me whether they should listen to him, i will tell them: NO. he is sweet poison. glib talker but can say anything - he is totally unreliable and we have no proof whatsoever that he renounced his previous beliefs.

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    when one has an established history of promoting a certain belief system, unless they explicitly disavow that system, you cannot consider them as having abandoned that system merely upon their avoiding discussion of those beliefs.
     
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  4. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Eternality of hellfire and triple talaq.

     
  5. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    He says it's haram. That which is a stepping stone to shirk.

    If brothers can check YouTube for Yasir's stern defence of iT and saying he's his favourite scholar of all.
     
  6. Uthman

    Uthman Active Member

    YQ does not say it’s shirk. He changed his position on that.

    Does that make him out of ahl as sunnah?
     
  7. Shadman

    Shadman Active Member

    Deeming it as shirk vs saying it is haram are different because the perspective changes.
     
  8. Abdullah Ahmed

    Abdullah Ahmed Veteran

    practice vs non-practice is not the same as acceptance vs rejection

    rejection entails considering it either haram or shirk which would then lead to considering the one who practices it as either fasiq or mushrik
     
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  9. Uthman

    Uthman Active Member

    does it take one out of ahl as sunnah if one doesn’t practice it?
     
  10. Ali_Bash

    Ali_Bash Active Member

    Asalam Alaikum

    are you including true Athari's into the following of the four schools?
     
  11. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Shaykh Asrar on istighathah.

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  12. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Alahazrat in Umur e Ishrin.

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  13. Uthman

    Uthman Active Member

    You’ve lost the plot.

    and if someone does not Practice istighatha and considers it Haram owing to sadd al dharai, does it take them out of ahl as sunnah?
     
  14. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Yasir Taymiyyan said we shouldn't refute from the pulpit. That's sulh kullism.

    Imam ibn Sirin's anecdote with the heretics is famed: he didn't even want to listen to them read Quran.

    If Sunnis are exposed to Yasir - wahabis speak sweet poison - they are shaatir - then they are in danger of being sulhfied or worse.

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    As for me, even in the recent Gaza genocide, I didn't share things from those of questionable aqidah. I didn't need to.

    Yasir is a Taymiyyan. Self professed. And he's against Sayyid Muhammad bin Alawi. He says istighathah is haram and is a stepping stone to shirk.
     
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  15. Uthman

    Uthman Active Member

    @Aqdas can you explain what makes Yasir Qadhi a non sunni please?
     
  16. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    The ruling of the Quran and hadith is to not associate with deviants. Yasir is a deviant.

    When someone like Shaykh Asrar starts to appear on platforms with all and sundry, this blurs the lines between Sunni and non-Sunni.

    What is there in that podcast, aqidah wise, that makes it clear to an unknowing Sunni that they shouldn't take from Yasir?

    Abstaining from heretics has to start at the top. Even when there was no mass media, our ulama didn't even speak to deviants. If ulama start normalising associating with non-Sunnis, what hope for laity?

    Oh, btw, check the title: aqidah. So we now need to learn aqidah from and about the aqidah of Yasir.
     
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  17. Shaahid

    Shaahid New Member


    Keep your tana tan sunnism to yourself
     
  18. Uthman

    Uthman Active Member

    Why?
     
  19. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Utter nonsense.

    Disagree with Sayyid Abbas or Alawi Al-Maliki if you want but to draw a comparison between them (and for that matter even "sir" "allama" iqbal) and this amit shah wannabe akram nadwi is zulm.
     
  20. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    No he doesn't want kids who can't spell c-a-t cat to act all gung ho and discuss shakespeare's sonnets - figuratively speaking!

    Any Sunni who can't at least give an executive summary of Fatawa Haramayn (not just say he proved the 4 tawaghit as murtads) should strengthen his understanding of Tahawi and basic fiqh rather than go around trying to collect more signatures for Fatawa Haramayn and make a fool of himself.

    If you don't know basic quadratic equations and (a+b)^2 = a^2 + 2ab + b^2, then please do NOT try to teach 3rd degree differential equations to people who know better algebra than you but don't know differential calculus!

    Corollary - even if you do know how to solve 3rd degree differential equations, no point trying to teach them to a child who can't add 2+2=4.
     
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