Also... we don't have any issue with Mawlana Ilyas Qadri Attari Razvi hafidhahullah. You're levelling accusations against us by grouping us with people, without even enquiring what our opinion is in regards to Mawlana Ilyas Qadri..... I love dawat e Islami, and I have many close friends who are apart of dawat e Islami, and students of their Jamia-tul-Madinah and I have immense support for them. Show me where I've been a takfiri? I am justified in doing takfir of escadaman07, and you have agreed with that. Show me the other takfeer. Also don't forget, you're sat behind the computer/phone too, calling me 'ugly', 'bastard' calling us 'hayenas', and the list goes on. And comparing the other people on this forum to 'khanzeers'... when you know you can't defend anything you result to ad-hominems... I struggle to believe your age is the age you've placed on your profile. If it is, then it's all these 'haqqani' delusions that have simply made you to be dis-ingenuous and deficient in basic reasoning and make you come across as an over-zealous, blind-following youth. You're the most imaginative on this thread. And the one with the least manners. What adab have you learnt from your tariqah? Neither do you have adab for aqeedah, or 'ilm, or for people. Your foolishness has been exposed. I warned you at the start, if anybody ends up presenting to me sullhe kulliyyat with haqqanis I will show them what haqqanis are. And I did. I answered to your objections, as have others too. The nails have been placed on the coffin, and you're banging out of frustration trying to get out.